cpaul1104 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 If steroids equals cheating, and cheating compromises the integrity of the game, then why should Bonds, or Giambi be treated any differently than Pete Rose? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted December 7, 2004 Global Moderator Share Posted December 7, 2004 i dont think it matters... sports are worthless... so if they want to f*ck their lives up w/ that then let them... theyre only dishonoring and embarassing themselves when they get these records and are known as "the record holder on steroids" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585058621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Good question, I think they should not be inducted in the hall of fame either Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585058629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
adcmarti Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I am sure it will be quite the debate for years to come. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585059049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2004 dude you got me all excited thinking they announced he wouldn't be let in... there is good debate both ways... thread title edited for clarity... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585059281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 dude you got me all excited thinking they announced he wouldn't be let in...there is good debate both ways... thread title edited for clarity... 585059281[/snapback] Since the title was edited asking for opions maybe there should be a poll :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585059296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonobozoot Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Since the title was edited asking for opions maybe there should be a poll :unsure: 585059296[/snapback] Agreed For my $0.02 opinion, Barry and Giambi should never be inducted into the HOF. their homeruns, from the point of drugs, should be subtracted so that their total should be lower. they should be banned for life/10 years for their disgraceful act. This is no different from what Pete Rose did. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585059486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Tex Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The should both be banned from baseball now and forever. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 and now all those morons who said oh Bonds didnt use steriods, well GG to you! And dont play that **** hes playing "oh i didnt know there were steriods, or i didnt know it was illegal." Give me a break, bonds should be banned from baseball and should have his homerun record taken out of the books. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 they should stand ona pitchers mound and have someoone hit baseballs towards them aiming for there nuts. but the amount of steroids they have taken already probably shrunk them to the size of raisins :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I think he should go into the Hall of Fame. Mark McGwire will be and he used a muscle enhancer. Barry didn't just start hitting home runs either. Ever since he came to the Giants in 1993 he has been around 35-45...he just had the one big year when he hit 73. You've still got to hit the ball, folks. If all these major league players are supposedly juiced up...it's not working for about 85%-90% of the players. Why? BECAUSE YOU STILL HAVE TO HIT THE BALL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 /\ haha that brings up a good point...I wonder why Barry "didn't know" he was using steriods when he noticed his head growing in size, his muscle mass growing, and his nuts shrinking...all along with terrible mood swings and probably acne all over his body :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 i play baseball and steriods make you stronger, more power, quicker, which helps when batting. What McGwire took wasnt illegal, baseball said so, what bonds took were Steriods and baseball has determined them illegal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060111 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkyx Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I agree, Bonds was not a superstar until his head size started growing... So thats a "No" for the hall of fame :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 Poll Added Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060356 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickFinlay2 Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 yes he should be banned,no question about it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted December 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 7, 2004 Crap, I thought the question was "Should barry be added to the HOF", so I clicked yes :pinch: Now I can't change my vote :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 I fixed it for you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585060480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted December 8, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2004 I fixed it for you. 585060480[/snapback] Thanks, BOO:happy:y: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Yes and get rid of 73 HR and put it back to Mark McGwire 70.. Or maybe Mark did juice himself also? :unsure: All I remember he was so damn skinny when he was rookie and then now HUGE.. Obviously??? :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted December 8, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2004 Or maybe Mark did juice himself also? :unsure: 585062232[/snapback] Yes, he admitted a few years back in an interview that he used steroids. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted December 8, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2004 he is a fake. no. he cheated just like rose. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 i thought McGwire used legal supplements? But if he juiced it too take his panzy ass outta the HOF too. Bonds is a joke and so are all the people who defended him and said he didnt juice it up. LOL at all of you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budious Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 Banned from the hall of fame, yes. Banned from baseball, no. I think any accumulated records past present or future obtained through use of steriods should be expunged. But until formal rules are set on the matter, I don't think he should be banned from playing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 8, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2004 if they could determimne when he started using, allow those records to count, up til that point. after that, wipe everything. yeah, all those guys mcquire, bonds, went from being normal sized (and this was already in their prime age) to absolutely humongous...it just never seemed normal. either way, it's really disappointing. you know they know it's steroids, they have to know it's wrong, but apparently the rules and the game don't apply to them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/254174-should-barry-be-in-the-hall-of-fame/#findComment-585062603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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