deceased_which_appreciates Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I got a bit nervous there at the end. Tuberville generally goes to a prevent defense late in the game with the lead no matter what. Safety slipped and allowed an 80 yard pass late. If you missed it the finel was Auburn 16, Virginia Tech 13. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinner Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 If VT had 30 more seconds, we could have seen an OT game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585227681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D!ABOL!C Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 The game would have been a lot different if the H-Back for the Hokie Pokies didnt drop that wide open TD when it was 6-0. Oh well, woulda coulda shoulda. Almost a good comeback though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585227688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 It was closer than I thought it would be. They definately played their best game of the year, even though I was rooting against them :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585227713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yea I wish VT didn't drop that pass in the end zone or miss that field goal...woulda been a great win! Oh well...we'll get'em next year!!! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585229483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotus22 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Great Game. Auburn proved me wrong. on a side note deceased_which_appreciates your name is real long and messing w/ the board. I would suggest a name change. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585229649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I have the clip of the VT's QB getting up ended trying to score. Check my sig. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585229677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipe Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Congrats to Auburn on the great season. I did not like Tommy's comment about no game being in doubt in the 4th quarter - LSU! Auburn got screwed though - they should get the AP trophy like USC did last year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585229852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb815 Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 It was a good game, VT held their own for the most part. This very easily could have been a VT victory. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585229925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Had VT's Full Back not dropped the pass that hit him in the chest it would have been a VT win...or if they didn't miss the FG then they would have forced overtime....It's too bad that VT strayed away from their offensive gameplan for the first 3 quarters, I haven't seen most of those plays since the 2000 season. But I can't take anything away from Auburn, even if Tech had won I would have still said Auburn is the best team in the nation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 :punk: Go Auburn :punk: I'm a UVA fan :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Great job to Auburn to complete their best season ever. However, I am interested to know when this went from "Auburn should be in the National Championship game" to "Auburn should be National Champions". I am disappointed that Auburn didn't get a chance like everyone else, but I do not think they are number 1 in any way at all. They haven't been too impressive in either of the championship games they played. Number 2, we'll see, I think that's still possible depending on how both OU and USC play tonight, but I don't see Auburn being #1 at all. Either way, just like last year, there still is only one REAL national champion, no matter how much another team may want to say they are it. Auburn played incredible this year, and hopefully they will have a chance next year to prove how good they are. The bottom line is, Auburn isn't and wont be national champions no matter what, so lets give it a rest already. USC had the same thing happen last year, and look what happened, they came back the next year and made it to the big game, so stop complaining and get ready to show people who you really are next year ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipe Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Had VT's Full Back not dropped the pass that hit him in the chest it would have been a VT win...or if they didn't miss the FG then they would have forced overtime....It's too bad that VT strayed away from their offensive gameplan for the first 3 quarters, I haven't seen most of those plays since the 2000 season. But I can't take anything away from Auburn, even if Tech had won I would have still said Auburn is the best team in the nation. 585230073[/snapback] That is rediculous... How do you know Auburn does not go down the field and score on the last drive if they need the points to win, or any other drive after that if they needed the points. Get out of here.... :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snipe Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Great job to Auburn to complete their best season ever. However, I am interested to know when this went from "Auburn should be in the National Championship game" to "Auburn should be National Champions". I am disappointed that Auburn didn't get a chance like everyone else, but I do not think they are number 1 in any way at all. They haven't been too impressive in either of the championship games they played. Number 2, we'll see, I think that's still possible depending on how both OU and USC play tonight, but I don't see Auburn being #1 at all. Either way, just like last year, there still is only one REAL national champion, no matter how much another team may want to say they are it. Auburn played incredible this year, and hopefully they will have a chance next year to prove how good they are. The bottom line is, Auburn isn't and wont be national champions no matter what, so lets give it a rest already. USC had the same thing happen last year, and look what happened, they came back the next year and made it to the big game, so stop complaining and get ready to show people who you really are next year ;) 585230345[/snapback] I could not agree more, however all we heard for the last 365 days was how USC/LSU were co-national champions. I hope OU wins tonight, if not the media will talk USC up as back to back national champions, etc... FUSC :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I could not agree more, however all we heard for the last 365 days was how USC/LSU were co-national champions. I hope OU wins tonight, if not the media will talk USC up as back to back national champions, etc... FUSC :crazy:y: 585230379[/snapback] Yeah, back to back my ass, only one national championship counts, and that's the winner of the national championship game. Getting #1 in a seperate ranking is fine, but it doesn't make you the national champion still. However, it does show that maybe the BCS doesn't work so well (hah, maybe), and that you SHOULD have been national champions, but it STILL does NOT make you the national champions. USC has a history of giving themselves national championships when it's close for the year.:rolleyes:s:Edit:bIf I were to count the number of times OU has gotten #1 in a poll as a national championship for them, then OU would have 16, instead they have 7 legit championshipsi> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 That is rediculous... How do you know Auburn does not go down the field and score on the last drive if they need the points to win, or any other drive after that if they needed the points.Get out of here.... Thats why they play the game...jeez...calm down...I didn't say VT "should" have won...i meant that they could have...they blew some key chances. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585230575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted January 4, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2005 Yeah, back to back my ass, only one national championship counts, and that's the winner of the national championship game. Getting #1 in a seperate ranking is fine, but it doesn't make you the national champion still. However, it does show that maybe the BCS doesn't work so well (hah, maybe), and that you SHOULD have been national champions, but it STILL does NOT make you the national champions. USC has a history of giving themselves national championships when it's close for the year. :rolleyes:Edit: If I were to count the number of times OU has gotten #1 in a poll as a national championship for them, then OU would have 16, instead they have 7 legit championships 585230419[/snapback] says who? teh bcs? for everything up until 5 years ago, there were many publications that declared national champs. everybody gives themselves national championships when they go undefeated. who's to say you aren't? heck, even the AP/USA today polls haven't even been around that long... auburn is a national champ in my mind, and i hate the SEC... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted January 4, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2005 Auburn is a national champ as much as Utah is. If there should be a co-national champ, it should be Utah, because they dominated their bowl game along with every other game during the year. But, since they're not a big school, no one gives a damn. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 National Champion is a word that is singular. It describes one, and only one team, unlike some people would like to believe. Granted Auburn did very well this year, they never showed enough to be placed higher than USC or OU during the season. Both of those teams started out at the top, and didn't do anything to prove that they should be placed otherwise. In my mind the only champion is the one that wins the national championship game. I don't care who rates you #1, you play the game, you win it, you're the champ. I don't care if OU was in Auburn's situation, it would still be the same. Further, if the BCS was forced upon everyone, then that would be one thing, and I could possibly see some sympathy to teams who get left out. But if you vote for it, I don't want to hear your whining and complaining when it doesn't work out your way. I think everyone now agrees that the BCS is crap, and that it needs to be replaced, but guess what, until it is, we still play by BCS rules since that's what everyone agreed on. You don't get to change the rules to suit yourself. I wish the NCAA would just take over the rankings and make them official so we wouldn't have teams like USC declaring themselves national champs whenever they want. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Auburn have the chance, but it isn't going to happen, so I go by how the system works. Oh, and to correct one more thing: heck, even the AP/USA today polls haven't even been around that long... That's not true. The USA Today polls have been going on for over 20 years, and AP polls for well over 50 years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted January 4, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2005 Check this out, guys ;) http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1958914 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 They shouldn't have taken strength of schedule out of the BCS. You can go undefeated with a weak schedule, does that mean you should be thought as a better team? After watching the game [before I fell asleep, damn work], I don't think Auburn should be considered a national champion. Sure, they're really good, but no USC or OU. Edit- On the video of Randall getting up-ended, he is damn lucky he didn't break his arm/extend his elbow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJerman Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Check this out, guys ;)http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1958914 585231596[/snapback] "A committee of college football experts to set the next national title game" I don't see this being any better than the BCS, it just uses less people to pick who goes, and is more subject to corruption/bias than what we currently have. If they aren't going to change having one game be the deciding factor, then they might as well just leave it as it is. However I think the BCS needs to be completely elminated and someone else needs to be in charge. They shouldn't have taken strength of schedule out of the BCS. You can go undefeated with a weak schedule, does that mean you should be thought as a better team? After watching the game [before I fell asleep, damn work], I don't think Auburn should be considered a national champion. Sure, they're really good, but no USC or OU. I agree, and with that said the national championship game should be OU and Auburn, with USC not being a part of it at all. The Big 12 and SEC are both very difficult conferences, but the PAC 10 crap this year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 I'm quite glad WVU didn't go undefeated this year [given the opportunity to go to a national championship if OU or USC lost]. We would have gotten stomped like a mother. Bowl games just aren't WVUs pick I guess :\ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted January 4, 2005 Share Posted January 4, 2005 Edit- On the video of Randall getting up-ended, he is damn lucky he didn't break his arm/extend his elbow. 585231633[/snapback] Yea or seprate his shoulder, was a hard landing. Bet he has a mark on his thigh from that hit. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted January 4, 2005 Veteran Share Posted January 4, 2005 20 and 50 years bro...what do you think they did before that? they still played football, michigan's been playing since the 1800's... get off of the bcs' nuts...just because they jump in and say we decide the winner, that doesn't mean they are right. that just means they signed a contract with somebody for a hell of a lot of money. they have no more right to declare a national champion than anybody else. and yes, there can be co national champions, there has been since college football began. why do you act like the bcs has so much power? in my mind, utah and auburn are legitimate national champs. you can't prove otherwise. all you can prove is that they won every single game they played. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/266451-ncaa-nokia-sugar-bowl/#findComment-585231952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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