Dale Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) ok, i did lots of searching through this forum before i decided to start this thread. My family is interested in a Brand New big screen telivision. It will be Multi-Purpose (games, TV shows, Movies.) It will be High Definition (of coarse :p ). i did some searching and from what i can read DLP and LCD screens both do not experience burn in. but plasma do. I am a little confused here in some ways still. Above was what i understood about burn in's. however i got some questions about type of TV's and their potential for burn in's. When i was "younger" everybody told me it was the "projection" televisions have burn in's. but now i read these threads people don't quite talk about projection televisions. What are Projection Telivisions? i ask this because its confusing. do projection televisions have burn in's or not? When i read a flyer i read just plain "projection" televisions. then i look next to it and it says "DLP Widescreen Projection TV". Because it is a DLP, does it make safe for burn in's? or does it make it not safe because its a projection? i also ask this because i seen a Telivision in the Best Buy flyer that got me interested but if it may have burn in. I worry. TOSHIBATHEATREWIDE(HD) 65" Widescreen Projection TV HDTV compatible 3D Y/C digital comb filter Built-in protective screen shield thank you for taking your time to respond to this. my main question to sum it up is.. what is projection televisions. and i don't need help choosing one, i look around the store and compare the quality myself, i did a little bit of reading on the difference between DLP's and LCD's and i guess i will have to think about that sort of stuff when we are about to buy. Edited February 5, 2005 by Dale Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodonkey Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 I have a saturday job helping my mates at my local S@7y Centre, and in my experience: LCD Tellys suck ass, very very poor picture compared to Plasma, the pixel discharge rate is just too slow for TV. A Projection Telly, or Rear Projection Telly, basicaly has a projector of sorts inside that projects a reversed picture onth the back of the screen, which at the viewers side obviously, is the right way round... In my experience Rear Projection Telly's suck ass too! You have to be EXACTLY in line with the screen to see anything on the screen, so no good for a family I would think. And about the burn in, unless you want to pause your DVD Player or VCR and keep the picture on screen for a good few years, you are pretty safe. Cathode Ray (the technology we used since about 1930) suffered from screen burn but nobody complained! If you want my advice go for Plasma, and give LCD a wide birth, if you want a bad picture quality for your money, buy LCD, but hey, the trade off for worst picture quality ever is it wont have any screen burn if you pause your DVD for a few years... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585417123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanrosa Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 how long does plasma last (out of interest)? it's hot gasses inside isnt it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585417131 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad.C Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) If your going to leave your game/dvd/movie etc on pause for any longer then 30 secs then I would recommend doing the safe thing and turning the T.V. off. Sure you may have to use all that energy grabing the remote and pressing that littl e button but hey, its safe. how long does plasma last (out of interest)? it's hot gasses inside isnt it 585417131[/snapback] Check out this link.. http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmat...v-lifespan.html Edited February 5, 2005 by chast Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585417136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathanrosa Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 thanks :=] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585417151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad.C Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 No Worries.. If I had the money I would def. invest in a plasma television. Yes they may not last as long as other television technologies but by the time you plasma looses its goodness, new television technologies will be out just screaming to be bought and bragged about.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585417161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 5, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 5, 2005 DLP, PCD Projection, or LCD are the way to go, but I'm going to rule out LCD for your budget, right now. It is correct that Digital Projection sets do not suffer from burn in, so you do not have to worry, on that front. That Toshba you are seeing in the BB paper, it's rear projection, not digital (I work at BB so I know). You should be fine going with either DLP or LCD Projection. If you are going to BB, I'd suggest looking at the Toshiba for DLP's and the Sony for the LCD Projection. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585418320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 thank you all for the help :) i understand which is the way to go.. but my father wants quality and size.. and price.. he wines that if its not 60" or bigger.. he doesn't want it :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trance Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 wouldn't get any of that crap... get a DLP projector. I have a 96" widescreen HI-DEF. Oh, and altogether for less than 2000... that includes full 6.1 digital sound, screen, and projector. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterren Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 wouldn't get any of that crap... get a DLP projector. I have a 96" widescreen HI-DEF. Oh, and altogether for less than 2000... that includes full 6.1 digital sound, screen, and projector. 585419353[/snapback] It's only more economical if you have the wall space for that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trance Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 ok... so make it 60"... still need the same wall space for where the TV is going to go. Make it any size you want. That is the beauty of the the projector. Wide viewing angle, and hardly any footprint. Ceiling mount it, and screen mount on the wall. Much ligher, easier to upgrade and is not a huge eyesore that a big screen can become. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 (edited) its not that i don't have the wall space.. its more about how long my room is.. my TV room is a big rectangle. if i do it the long way.. id have to put te coach in the middle of the room? and it makes it more awkward because its one of those electric coaches. with heat and vibration function (it even has a phone built in) :p. if i put it against the other wall (the short distance).. i question weather the projector will have enough distance? or if the screen will be too close to the coach. you are right.. projectors are the way to go.. and not that you mention it, i will talk about it to my parents and see what they think. we'll look around and see what they can do. thanks for your info again! Edited February 5, 2005 by Dale Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419387 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Post-It Note Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 What technology does the Sony Grand Wega use? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trance Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 to give you an idea, for my 96" I need a throw distance of about 15'. If you go to the infocus site, or www.projectorcentral.com you can use their screen size/projector length calculator. That way you can design exactly what you need to give you the best quality for the size. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKuro Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Sony grand wega use 3 lcd panels, my parents have a 60 inch wega, however, I love the excellent quality of my 50 inch Sansung DLP. The colors on the samsung dlp, just seem that much more vibrant when compared to the 60 wega lcd projection. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKuro Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 I am looking into a dlp projector for my basement, I want a 96inch screen, But are the colors/quality as good as my dlp tv. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecotrojan Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 I have a DLP projector. I willl never revert back. You can have the screen whatever size you like, its all to do with the throw distance / positioning of the projector. Would recommend a projector but do your homework first. Also, if you do go down the projector route, ENSURE you test the different types of projectors. I have a DLP and now and again I can see "the rainbow effect" which can cause nausea and sickness when some people view them over time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 5, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 5, 2005 Let me go over a few things in random order: 1) For a 60" set, look at the KDF60XS955 from Sony. It's simply gorgeous. 2) DLP will always be a bit brighter than LCD Projo because, in LCD Projo's, some of the light has to be dissipated (sp?) in order to protect the LCD panels from heat damage. 3) Projectors are nice but only if you have the room and clearance required. However, if you look at a projector, look towards one based on LCoS technology. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585419494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 my parents sound a bit iffy on projectors.. i guess they have got to see a projector up close.. my parents arnt too up for buying online (they never have been) and are LCoS projectors available in Canadian Retail stores? I know a few stores use projectors (Visions is the only store at the top of my head that uses projectors in their showrooms. and i think theres got to be more.. A&B Sound?. i don't know.) it sounds like the best way to go would be projector.. i carefully looked around and it looks very capable of fitting. i will pass on all of your info to my parents and they and I will help choose the perfect TV for all of our needs. i thank you all again, as you have helped me see that there is other choices. I will respond to this thread again if i need some help getting stuff or if we actually did buy it.. thanks again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585420744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 6, 2005 Good luck with everything man. Just make sure that you don't let anything stop you from getting exactly what you need and what meets your lifestyle 100%. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585420888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK47 Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 DLP!! LCD = muddy response, bad contrast, expensive, size limit, viewing angles Plasma = expensive, severe burn in (just from simple things like channel logos) Rear Projection= large, low contrast, low picture, viewing angles Projection= affected by light, affected by blockage, extremely expensive, bad image LCD projection= Expensive, sizelimit DLP suffers from none of these cons. DLP's contrast ratio is 6000:1. It suffers from no burn in, and has a breathtaking image. I wish my parents didn't buy the 51" sony rp, and bouhgt a 42" samsung dlp. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585426614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 7, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 7, 2005 DLP!!LCD = muddy response, bad contrast, expensive, size limit, viewing angles Plasma = expensive, severe burn in (just from simple things like channel logos) Rear Projection= large, low contrast, low picture, viewing angles Projection= affected by light, affected by blockage, extremely expensive, bad image LCD projection= Expensive, sizelimit DLP suffers from none of these cons. DLP's contrast ratio is 6000:1. It suffers from no burn in, and has a breathtaking image. I wish my parents didn't buy the 51" sony rp, and bouhgt a 42" samsung dlp. 585426614[/snapback] Many of your points are just horrendously incorrect. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585426631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaClearly Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I just bought the Sharp Aquos 45 inch LCD flat panel monitor. This is the best set I've ever seen. The black levels and contrast just has come along way. It also supports 1080p resolution and even 720p and 1080i content looks better on this set. I've also noticed that this set does a great job with SDTV content. This will be the future and I can't see how plasma sets can survive. This set just can't be beat and I expect this set within the next year to be half price considering the sale. But again this set is currently way out of most peoples price ranges but its got no cons I can think of. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585438883 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grex Posted February 11, 2005 Share Posted February 11, 2005 DLP Projectors are the way to go but if you have a well lit room menaing lots of sun. Stay Away from the projectors they will get washed out. Do not worry about the throw distance most new ones can throw pretty far. The Tv you have seledcted is a very nice one. i have recomemed and installed this one multiple times. I personally love large plasmas. But they only last about 6-8 years depending on TV watching, then the brightness starts to go. They are also the most susceptible to "burn in". My personal fav is the Samsung 42 DLP rear projection for normal TV watching. Very bright, exccelent viewing angle. Comaprable to most plasmas on Brightness, Contrast and Color. But carries a price tag much more than most DLP rear proj. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585452503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 11, 2005 Veteran Share Posted February 11, 2005 I just bought the Sharp Aquos 45 inch LCD flat panel monitor. This is the best set I've ever seen. The black levels and contrast just has come along way. It also supports 1080p resolution and even 720p and 1080i content looks better on this set. I've also noticed that this set does a great job with SDTV content. This will be the future and I can't see how plasma sets can survive. This set just can't be beat and I expect this set within the next year to be half price considering the sale. But again this set is currently way out of most peoples price ranges but its got no cons I can think of. 585438883[/snapback] Oh man I am dying to see that set in action. Me and my buddy were drooling over it at work, hoping it would get a shelf spot, but it never did. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/281029-my-family-is-looking-for-a-new-tv/#findComment-585452555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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