GrymmWolf Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 What I find most amusing is that people have been banned for just this type of action in the past and yet this "child" remains? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh! Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I read the thread over at the forum and OMG!!! I know he should of got permissions etc, but what a bunch of whining old ladies..lol One persons packed a sad and retired from the skinning community, another has told him to stay, another has tactfully pointed out that his copyright may not cover all eventualities.. All I can say is you guys need to get a girlfriend or something, bunch of fcuking old ladies !!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PabloPCX Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 los iconos son Aero-Soft Inspiriat Set 1 y Longhorn Icons Set Aero-Soft Inspiriat Set 1 ------------------------------------ Preview http://www.betaguygzt.net/Files/AveShell/N...SIPreviewv1.jpg Download http://www.betaguygzt.net/Files/AveShell/N...npiriatSet1.zip Longhorn Icons Set ------------------------------------ Preview http://home.iprimus.com.au/ktraynor63/lhrnicons-a.jpg http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/109...FINAL_cubiz.rar Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504539 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrymmWolf Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 A rip is a rip. Plain and simple. It violates Neowin rules. I quote the great Radish.. Copyright violation policy update as of June 17, 2002 - Neowin.net does not allow or permit the posting of copyright violations. This includes, but is not limited to visual styles, icons, PNG's, wallpapers and application skins. The following guidelines should be considered when posting a copyrighted work - 1.) Permission from the original copyright holder must be included with the posted content. Permission should be current, valid and addressed to the member posting the copyrighted work. A copy of the permission should be forwarded to an active forum moderator. 2.) Screenshots of copyrighted material are allowed within the forums. However, any attempt to distribute a "ripped" work by a Neowin member is a violation of Neowin.net policy. This includes use of the private message system, posting of email addresses etc .... 3.) All permissions will be followed up by a forum moderator. Posting of a falsified permission will result in immediate action being taken against the offending member. 4.) Neowin.net asks that all members that find a work they believe to be in violation of copyright to report the offending material immediately, including all information as to why you believe the work to be in violation of a copyright. Any post in violation of the above policies will be deleted. Disciplinary action against the offending board member will follow existing Neowin policies. Neowin.net respects the integrity and rights of artists and their works. If you have any questions or complaints about the enforcement of this policy, please feel free to contact any of the moderators in the Customizing Windows forum. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PabloPCX Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 I please do not speak ingles to translate Spanish A rip is a rip. Plain and simple. It violates Neowin rules. I quote the great Radish.. Copyright violation policy update as of June 17, 2002 - Neowin.net does not allow or permit the posting of copyright violations. This includes, but is not limited to visual styles, icons, PNG's, wallpapers and application skins. The following guidelines should be considered when posting a copyrighted work - 1.) Permission from the original copyright holder must be included with the posted content. Permission should be current, valid and addressed to the member posting the copyrighted work. A copy of the permission should be forwarded to an active forum moderator. 2.) Screenshots of copyrighted material are allowed within the forums. However, any attempt to distribute a "ripped" work by a Neowin member is a violation of Neowin.net policy. This includes use of the private message system, posting of email addresses etc .... 3.) All permissions will be followed up by a forum moderator. Posting of a falsified permission will result in immediate action being taken against the offending member. 4.) Neowin.net asks that all members that find a work they believe to be in violation of copyright to report the offending material immediately, including all information as to why you believe the work to be in violation of a copyright. Any post in violation of the above policies will be deleted. Disciplinary action against the offending board member will follow existing Neowin policies. Neowin.net respects the integrity and rights of artists and their works. If you have any questions or complaints about the enforcement of this policy, please feel free to contact any of the moderators in the Customizing Windows forum. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrymmWolf Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Copyright la actualizaci?n de la pol?tica de la violaci?n en fecha de junio el 17 de 2002 - Neowin.net no permite ni permite la fijaci?n de las violaciones del copyright. Esto incluye, pero no se limita a los estilos, a los iconos, a los png, a los papeles pintados y a las pieles visuales del uso. Las pautas siguientes deben ser consideradas al fijar un trabajo copyrighted 1.) el permiso del sostenedor original del copyright se debe incluir con el contenido fijado. El permiso debe ser actual, v?lido y tratado al miembro que fija el trabajo copyrighted. Una copia del permiso se debe remitir a un asesor activo del foro. 2.) Screenshots del material copyrighted se permite dentro de los foros. Sin embargo, cualquier tentativa de distribuir "rasg?" el trabajo de un miembro de Neowin es una violaci?n de la pol?tica de Neowin.net. Esto incluye el uso del sistema privado del mensaje, fijaci?n de las direcciones etc del email.... 3.) todos los permisos ser?n seguidos por un asesor del foro. La fijaci?n de un permiso falsificado dar? lugar a la acci?n inmediata que es tomada contra el miembro que se ofende. 4.) Neowin.net pregunta que todos los miembros que encuentran un trabajo ellos creen para estar en la violaci?n del copyright para divulgar el material que se ofende inmediatamente, incluyendo toda la informaci?n en cuanto a porqu? usted cree el trabajo para estar en la violaci?n de un copyright. Cualquier poste en la violaci?n de las pol?ticas antedichas ser? suprimido. La acci?n disciplinaria contra el miembro del Consejo que se ofende seguir? las pol?ticas existentes de Neowin. Neowin.net respeta la integridad y las derechas de artistas y de sus trabajos. Si usted tiene cualesquiera preguntas o quejas sobre la aplicaci?n de esta pol?tica, si?ntase por favor libre entrar en contacto con cualesquiera de los asesores en el foro de Windows que modifica para requisitos particulares. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh! Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 At PCX... Just email the author of the glass thing in your VS(whatever it is) and get permission to use his ****e... The author just wants you to stroke his ego, cause its not like your making money from this, neither is he Im guessing so it only leaves egotisim... Should put up a big header on the frontpage of Skinning forums that reads: Leave your egos at the door..." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 @predator001, Jemaho is within his right to "whine". This PabloPCX is a goof. He rips from varied sources then tries to pawn it off as his own. 585504397[/snapback] perhaps so, and its lame behaviour for sure, but lets not be all doing this fake-surprise-shock-horror-omg-he-ste0led stuff now. it happens to everything. its not like hes charging you for the privilege of his whoring is it? i know some people on here try to get money for VS's. thats proper lame imo considering theres hundreds of free examples that blow you away. as soon as i saw the screenshot i could tell it was similar to about 20 other longhorn efforts out there. get over it and move along, its not worth the effort :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504758 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrymmWolf Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Harsh!, its not that simple unfortunately. PabloPCX ripped not just the Glass but other VS parts as well. There have been many debates here at Neowin over the years regarding rips. It is not necessarily a matter of ego, considerable work is involved in themeing (sp?) and your comments, to me at least, seem to indicate your acceptance of ripping off others work. There are a defined set of Rules here. We all abide by them or suffer the consequences. To predator001, I agree. No fake-surprise-shock-horror-omg-he-ste0led stuff here. Just disgusted with this evergrowing trend is all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PabloPCX Posted February 20, 2005 Author Share Posted February 20, 2005 Copyright la actualizaci?n de la pol?tica de la violaci?n en fecha de junio el 17 de 2002 - Neowin.net no permite ni permite la fijaci?n de las violaciones del copyright. Esto incluye, pero no se limita a los estilos, a los iconos, a los png, a los papeles pintados y a las pieles visuales del uso. Las pautas siguientes deben ser consideradas al fijar un trabajo copyrighted 1.) el permiso del sostenedor original del copyright se debe incluir con el contenido fijado. El permiso debe ser actual, v?lido y tratado al miembro que fija el trabajo copyrighted. Una copia del permiso se debe remitir a un asesor activo del foro. 2.) Screenshots del material copyrighted se permite dentro de los foros. Sin embargo, cualquier tentativa de distribuir "rasg?" el trabajo de un miembro de Neowin es una violaci?n de la pol?tica de Neowin.net. Esto incluye el uso del sistema privado del mensaje, fijaci?n de las direcciones etc del email.... 3.) todos los permisos ser?n seguidos por un asesor del foro. La fijaci?n de un permiso falsificado dar? lugar a la acci?n inmediata que es tomada contra el miembro que se ofende. 4.) Neowin.net pregunta que todos los miembros que encuentran un trabajo ellos creen para estar en la violaci?n del copyright para divulgar el material que se ofende inmediatamente, incluyendo toda la informaci?n en cuanto a porqu? usted cree el trabajo para estar en la violaci?n de un copyright. Cualquier poste en la violaci?n de las pol?ticas antedichas ser? suprimido. La acci?n disciplinaria contra el miembro del Consejo que se ofende seguir? las pol?ticas existentes de Neowin. Neowin.net respeta la integridad y las derechas de artistas y de sus trabajos. Si usted tiene cualesquiera preguntas o quejas sobre la aplicaci?n de esta pol?tica, si?ntase por favor libre entrar en contacto con cualesquiera de los asesores en el foro de Windows que modifica para requisitos particulares. 585504731[/snapback] gracias por la traducci?n Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrymmWolf Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 PabloPCX, no problem. :) Maybe someone who can speak spanish (i rely upon Babelfish :) ) can explain to PabloPCX, I'm suspecting he may be unaware of the "permissions" requirements with some visuals. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh! Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 I think your right.. he got flammed pretty bad in the other forum(linked to) and didnt respond too well... At least someone here has taken the time to explain things to him Heres a translator if your unsure PCX http://www.worldlingo.com/en/products_serv...translator.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585504951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted February 21, 2005 Share Posted February 21, 2005 Harsh!, its not that simple unfortunately. PabloPCX ripped not just the Glass but other VS parts as well. There have been many debates here at Neowin over the years regarding rips. It is not necessarily a matter of ego, considerable work is involved in themeing (sp?) and your comments, to me at least, seem to indicate your acceptance of ripping off others work. There are a defined set of Rules here. We all abide by them or suffer the consequences.To predator001, I agree. No fake-surprise-shock-horror-omg-he-ste0led stuff here. Just disgusted with this evergrowing trend is all. 585504787[/snapback] ever heard "imitation is the best form of flattery"? if i designed a website and saw it being used elsewhere i'd be pleased really. even though i did the work, i believe if its good and useful, and liked, it should be propogated. personally i dont copy others though i do get inspiration obviously, cos i prefer a challenge and like to do my own thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585512044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windows X Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 OK. About ripping issues, I'll tell you what exactly it is. This work is based on my visual style (Aero UI - Night) He mailed me regarding asking for permission and send me 4 shot links like first post. So he didn't rip Jameho but problem is another. "HE DIDN"T MENTIONED ABOUT MY WORKS AND PERMISSION" So I think he should have learnt how to be "themer" in this community. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585515177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windows X Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Oh, yes. I forget one more thing. Glass taskbar wall idea doesn't belong to Jemaho. This idea was found during MCE fever. Since many themers couldn't find a way to make taskbar trans, they make embbeded taskbar in graphics to fit wallpaper well. Later, it's Longhorn fever with the same issues. Blackice started this idea and Jemaho's improved it. Hope this will make it clear. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585515200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harsh! Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Thats cleared things up a bit then... So IMO I dont think he set out to mislead people into thinking he was the sole creator of the VS he released, and yes he does have a little to learn when it comes to posting VS's in the future.. To me ripping off someones work constitutes as either telling others that you are the creator or releasing someone elses work for monetry value(which he didnt) Its a victimless crime.So what if people who dont know who the work really belongs to...Thats what I mean about egos getting in the way, When i download a VS, I couldnt care less who created it.Everybody else(so it seems) just wants to be told "there the greatest" or "your work is tops" etc... Its over for that crap, Im not an ego stroker and never will be... Thats not to say I dont post a small thank-you in the thread of the VS Ive downloaded though, thats just common courtesy... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585515235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemaho Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 (edited) Oh, yes. I forget one more thing. Glass taskbar wall idea doesn't belong to Jemaho. This idea was found during MCE fever. Since many themers couldn't find a way to make taskbar trans, they make embbeded taskbar in graphics to fit wallpaper well. Later, it's Longhorn fever with the same issues. Blackice started this idea and Jemaho's improved it.Hope this will make it clear. 585515200[/snapback] removed... Problem solved directly on MSN with WindowsX. Edited February 22, 2005 by jemaho Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/287620-release-longhorn-pcx-black-v20/page/2/#findComment-585516087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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