JustGeorge Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Actually the PS2's 32MB system memory has nothing to do with its poor graphics quality.However, the 4MB of memory accessible by the video card is a big problem for developers. Trying to fit textures and a framebuffer into 4MB isn't fun. Even if that 4MB is crazy fast. The Xbox 2 graphics chip will have 10MB of eDRAM. But it will only have to use it for the framebuffer - which is a perfect size for rendering at 720p. The Xbox 2's main memory (just like the Xbox 1) will be used for texture storage. 585636938[/snapback] A P*ss poor memory configuration hurts the whole system, including gfx. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585636967 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 a bit off topic here guys but i was just wondering do you think that the playstation 3 will use the traditional playstation control. like the same as the ps1 and ps2's control Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585636978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 a bit off topic here guys but i was just wondering do you think that the playstation 3 will use the traditional playstation control. like the same as the ps1 and ps2's control 585636978[/snapback] They PS controller is one of the console's finer points :) Somewhat weak in the racing genre, but well rounded design. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585636989 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldrusher Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 I don't think GT4 looks bad...do you? 585636893[/snapback] Textures could be ALOT better. And it lacks anti-aliasing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585637783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damolee Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 The very unfortunate thing that has happened with PS2, simply is ...it's trying to achieve way too much graphically when simply, all it should be doing was what it use to do best.... Make damn good classic games! I have rarely been a fan of XBox releases to be truthful although I do have one, and that really came into play when I got Riddick for my PC, it made the XBox version seem very old and dated. And the trick seems to be, that works v. well if pulled off right...esp PS2, use dark textures and remove rendering you cannot see in realtime aswell as plenty of motion blurring which is deemed to be a "Cinematic effect" , although I do find this more easy on the eye. Not always a bad thing!!! Even the PC has it's limitations, new game called F.E.A.R which is coming out soon enough, Bullet Time'sque action scenes with added sound waves (hard to explain) , was this an effect for us to enjoy?...Or simply a way of cramming in more action in one hit without having the worry of slowdown. Bottom line, All platforms are trying to achieve too much and forgetting the simple facts....they are games to be enjoyed, not 3D rendered scenes of some F*ing wild life park. Who wants that crap! Want that...go and visit one! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585637820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted March 19, 2005 Share Posted March 19, 2005 Is it me or is the XBOX starting to suck?Im a big PC/Console fan. I have all the systems.... But it seems like XBOX just doesn't have very good games.. I recently bought Halo 2 as it was good and it was my console seller ... But after I beat it, all the other games are horrible... PS2 has many more good games... but still ... how about retire the XBOX release all games on ps2 from now on... Sry XBOX fans.... But its time to sell em while they are worth at least some $$$...Im selling mine if anyone is interesed. I have a 1.6 box with an X3 and a 120 gig hdd... Jake- 585635340[/snapback] Um your opinion about good/bad games and graphics cant be compared. Graphics are seen your tastes are dependent on you. Stop trolling. What are you talking about?here is the rankings of consoles graphics wise (higher is better) Gamecube PS2 Xbox Gamecube is powered by a PowerPC engine and produces the best graphics. PS2 is top-line hardware from 1999. When it came out, it was better than people's computer graphics. Xbox is P3 hardware from 1996. Crap. I am not biased, as I own an Xbox. I really like my xbox, but the graphics are not as great as PS2's can be. The reason you see some multi-platform games with better graphics on Xbox is because Xbox is really easy to code for, whereas PS2 takes time. But, since PS2 is older, programmers already know hoe to best produce the games for it. I can't wait until PS3 come out. From what I hear, the Cell processor is really something to talk about. 585636168[/snapback] WTF are you smoking. PS2 graphics better than Xbox's...........God that is so funny. Please show me what cross-platform game the PS2 graphics are better than the Xbox, fanboy. Yes PS2 has always been poor graphic-wise. Great console, great controller but just tech old. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585638065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hipster Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yup, and Sony fans will have to put up with it for at least another year and a half until the PS3 comes out. Xbox 2 is rumored to be out within the year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585647366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahul Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Yup, and Sony fans will have to put up with it for at least another year and a half until the PS3 comes out. Xbox 2 is rumored to be out within the year. 585647366[/snapback] being i sony fan i think ill wait for abt a year for ps3 to arrive & then make my choice , abt gettin xbox2 or a ps3 , because i have a feeling that ps3 will have a wider number of titles available to it ( just like ps2) , itll be backwards compatible as well & who knows it might be graphically more powerful than xbox2. not to mention itll be aesthetically more pleasing than xbox2 ( just like ps2) to be kept it my bed room . Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585647401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Somewhat weak in the racing genre maybe fps and tps aswell?? i know it's strong point is probably sports games Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585647412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
x-byte Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 You startet do notice this now?!? PS2 have been having inferiour graphics since it's launch, I'm amazed that it haven't been replaced yet. But graphics doesn't matter in games IMO as long as the gameplay is good. People are getting spoiled when it comes to grapchics. As long as the graphics are good you really care little about how the gameplay and the rest is... Sony hyped the PS2 so much before it's launch, and the power it did deliver didn't even have a fraction of what it was promised to have. Sony do the same with PS3 now, but luckely technology is far better now so I don't think it would "fail" in the way PS2 did. PS: Sorry for bad english... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585647606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing-Man Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 Man alot of you are being harsh to the PS2. Its graphics are not incredibly p1ss poor. Its unfortunate that developers did not properly utilize vector processing. Either they didn't know how to code for it or the instructions were incredibly difficult to understand because they were in Japanese or traslated poorly. It seems like the only companies that knew how to fully utilize the system to its full capabilities were Japanese companies like Capcom, Konami, Square-Soft, etc. Look at games like Final-Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid, and Gran Turismo games. They are visually the best looking games on the system and they were developed by Japanese companies. I wouldn't consider those games to have p1ss poor graphics at all. It seems like Sony has come to recognize the problem with programming on the PS2 because they have pledged that they would make it easier for developers to code for the PS3 since it is most likely going to use a mutlicore Cell chip and the only way to fully use the system is to learn how to code for multiple cores. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585647897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bontakun Posted March 21, 2005 Share Posted March 21, 2005 is it me or do people seem to care less and less about gameplay and dwell more and more on graphics, i like my ps2 because it's got alot of games that i love and my favorite controller, i also like the gc and xbox for the games, not for the graphics oh and to give perspective on the age of the ps2's age, i got mine when i was still in high school, i'm going to get out of college before the new one comes out Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585648393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firen Posted March 23, 2005 Share Posted March 23, 2005 God of war anyone? I havent tried it out yet, but the gfx, as well as the gameplay look pretty kick ass to me Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/298176-is-it-just-me-or-is-ps2-startin-to-suck/page/3/#findComment-585656760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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