i love the seahawks Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 (edited) I have a question. This may be dumb, but I am itching to know. How did the Houston Texans, who were inducted in 2001 if I'm not mistaken, get a 7-9 record in their, what, 3rd season, when the freakin' Cleveland Browns are 4-12 and the freakin' San Francisco 49ers, one of the greatest teams ever, were 2-14?! How does this happen? ...I'm getting a Domanick Davis jersey. Edited April 17, 2005 by BOOGSoftball Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluepride35 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Because Cleveland's ownership doesn't know how to manage a team. And the 49ers got nailed by the salary cap. Similar to when Mariucci first arrived and had to re-build them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585781898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i love the seahawks Posted April 16, 2005 Author Share Posted April 16, 2005 Do you think the new guy from the Pats will bring them to their first winning season in 50 years? *exagerration Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585781907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
autodefe Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Because Cleveland's ownership doesn't know how to manage a team. And the 49ers got nailed by the salary cap. Similar to when Mariucci first arrived and had to re-build them. 585781898[/snapback] Not only were the Niners recovering from salary cap hell, but ownership is one of the worst (if not THE worst) ownerships in all of sports. http://www.dumpyork.com I want my 49ers back :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585781924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quigley0 Posted April 16, 2005 Share Posted April 16, 2005 Isn't cleveland an expansion team?? I mean, the old cleveland moved to baltimore. So, the new cleveland is an expansion team right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585782805 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i love the seahawks Posted April 16, 2005 Author Share Posted April 16, 2005 Isn't cleveland an expansion team??I mean, the old cleveland moved to baltimore. So, the new cleveland is an expansion team right? 585782805[/snapback] Yeah but a 10 year old one, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585784038 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Isn't cleveland an expansion team??I mean, the old cleveland moved to baltimore. So, the new cleveland is an expansion team right? 585782805[/snapback] Yes, 1999 was their first year in the business. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585785736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
method Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 It doesn't help when your first 3 first round draft picks are busts. Another problem was switching coaches after 2 years. In their defense they did make the playoffs one year under Butch Davis. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585786420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndianPimp99 Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 Also, I should point out that Cleveland had no time to prepare for their franchise. While the Jaguars and Panthers ownerships had almost 3 years to assemble a staff, offices, and scouts for drafts and free agents. The Renewed Browns were announced sometime in early 1998 and found an owner on October 24th, 1998. That means they had just about 3 months to prepre for free agents, and 6 months to prepare for their first draft. All that was so they could get the franchise up and ready to play in time for the 1999 season. I'm not a Browns fan, and I don't know how long it could possibly take to evaluate talent but in all fairness the amount of time the Browns were given to basically start a franchise was ridiculous. Is it any wonder they stink? Maybe, but that first year probably put them into a huge hole that they are just barely looking like they are getting out of now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585788573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahad Posted April 17, 2005 Share Posted April 17, 2005 because the Texans kick ass Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/309240-nfl-expansion-teams-vs-browns/#findComment-585789154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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