groingo2 Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 If I turn Java Scripting off the problem goes away but if I keep Java Scripting off and make a change in Preferences (example...Preferences / Advanced) and change any box and click OK, the out of focus problem is back. This has been an ongoing problem since version 7.23 or before on various machines using both Win 98 and XP and is definitely alive and well in Version 8. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 18, 2005 Share Posted April 18, 2005 Could you expand on this more? I don't understand exactly what you mean. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585794361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 What happens is the entire page gets a blurry look, all sharpness is lost but the solution odd as it may seem is to turn the Java off and it doesn't happen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585794856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Litespeed Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 What happens is the entire page gets a blurry look, all sharpness is lost but the solution odd as it may seem is to turn the Java off and it doesn't happen. 585794856[/snapback] You've mentioned both Javascript and Java in your posts so which is it? They are similar in name only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585794865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 At first, turning off Java Scripting stopped the problem when viewing websites but not after making changes using the Preferences functions as mentioned above. The two are seperate problems but now have one single solution. Turning the Java itself OFF cured both problems and allows the Java Scripting to work normally without causing the page blurring. I have no idea why it works but it simply does and it doesn't seem to cripple the browser for what I need. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585795764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 This doesn't make sense at all. Opera should not "blur" a page at all. Next time it happens, take a screen shot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585796006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 This doesn't make sense at all.? Opera should not "blur" a page at all.? Next time it happens, take a screen shot. 585796006[/snapback] Here ya go! Pretty Annoying HUH? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585797044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 There is something VERY wrong there. Is it just the opera wndow, or other stuff too? Try updating video drivers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585797875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 (edited) There is something VERY wrong there.? Is it just the opera wndow, or other stuff too?? Try updating video drivers? 585797875[/snapback] You're telling me, have seen it go unaddressed for years now, and several computers later using Win 98, 98 SE and XP, did it in all of my computers regardless. Video drivers is the first thing I keep up to date, heck it even does it with the onboard Savage video! The problem happens only when using Opera and continues for as long as you browse or until you close and re-open Opera. It appears to activate when a site requires either Java or Java Script as close as I can figure... the Preference adjustments can also activate it which tells me they must use Java too, but having Java turned off does not effect Preferences function. And this is just one of many problems Opera 8 continues to have that include clunky outdated user interface (especially TABs) and their insistance to comply with Web standards which results in many websites and functionalities just not being up to par. Netscape 8 Beta is still my favorite because it is faster, less site fussy and overall much easier to use. Almost sounds like a halfhearted rant, just dissapointed that Opera still can't get it right. Edited April 19, 2005 by groingo2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjoppe Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 thats a very odd problem, never heard about if before dissapointed? submit a bugreport and they surely will try to fix it and you should get more respone on your problems on opera's own forum Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 thats a very odd problem, never heard about if beforedissapointed? submit a bugreport and they surely will try to fix it and you should get more respone on your problems on opera's own forum 585798113[/snapback] I have submitted several complete with graphics over the past two years and never even hear back from them. As far as the Opera forum, all you get is the same old answers..."works fine for me...you must be a troll". Even old Nontroppo has nothing to say on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sav Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'm trying to reproduce your problem with the information you post above but can't. Can you explain more in detail the step you use to achive it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'm trying to reproduce your problem with the information you post above but can't. Can you explain more in detail the step you use to achive it. 585798145[/snapback] The easiest way is to use Opera in full default mode, this sets a control boundary. Make sure Java is turned on and Java Scripting...it should be by default. Now, simply go to Tools / Preferences / Advanced then simply click OK and that's all it takes, I tested it just a second ago and it worked. Java on blurry, Java off clear. I definitely does appear to be a JAVA problem. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I have submitted several complete with graphics over the past two years and never even hear back from them.As far as the Opera forum, all you get is the same old answers..."works fine for me...you must be a troll". Even old Nontroppo has nothing to say on it. 585798127[/snapback] Did you try a different graphics card? (PCI or AGP) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 Did you try a different graphics card? (PCI or AGP) 585798202[/snapback] YEP! Now 6 computers later! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 YEP! 585798213[/snapback] I'll install it in a bit and try what you said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 I'll install it in a bit and try what you said. 585798218[/snapback] I folowed what you said and everything is on by default, including Java. No blurriness here. Have you tried other PCs, or maybe a friend's/neighbor's to see if it's just yours? Btw, I'm not running any of Sun's java. Just realized that. Are you running a version of Sun's Java? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
groingo2 Posted April 19, 2005 Author Share Posted April 19, 2005 I folowed what you said and everything is on by default, including Java. No blurriness here. Have you tried other PCs, or maybe a friend's/neighbor's to see if it's just yours?Btw, I'm not running any of Sun's java. Just realized that. Are you running a version of Sun's Java? 585798256[/snapback] Yes, running Sun Java, yes have used on a bunch of other computers as previously mentioned. I'm dropping the issue since simply dissabling JAVA does the trick for me. I might try seeing if there is an update for the JAVA. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiebeest Posted April 19, 2005 Share Posted April 19, 2005 Here ya go!Pretty Annoying HUH? 585797044[/snapback] Dude, I have the exact same problem since a few weeks. Thought some freaky virus or spyware, but ZoneAlarm & Ad-Aware both say there shouldn't be anything wrong. Updated every driver for my system available but the problem persevered. So it's Java, you say? I'll try right away! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/310210-opera-8-final-looses-page-focus/#findComment-585798853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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