username Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 profits don't mean much, i guess you don't know much about what profits mean to the investors Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperSnake Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Where's the free feed? Subcirber only? Anyone have a free stream of this event? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ji@nBing said: Profit doesn't mean much. These comanies don't care a whole lot about making money on the consoles at this point. They just want to have the most poular one. The numbers speak for themselves. Nintendo was 3rd in sales last round, ie: they lost. 585933525[/snapback] Microsoft is the only player in the console market which is ready to lose money for market share. I dont think Sony or Nintendo would ever under price their consoles. Damn the conference got delayed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamenews Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ji@nBing said: Profit doesn't mean much. These comanies don't care a whole lot about making money on the consoles at this point. They just want to have the most poular one. The numbers speak for themselves. Nintendo was 3rd in sales last round, ie: they lost. 585933525[/snapback] Hhahaha! Look at this joker. Yes, companies DONT CARE TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY. Did you actually say that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 They just said on the stream it starts in 5 mins, and gave a warning about strobe lights and stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing-Man Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 username said: profits don't mean much, i guess you don't know much about what profits mean to the investors 585933538[/snapback] If you are a shareholder or investor in either the Xbox, PS2, or GameCube, would you like to hear that your console just lost billions or made millions? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Oneill said: They just said on the stream it starts in 5 mins, and gave a warning about strobe lights and stuff. 585933549[/snapback] On which stream ? link ? The link on GameSpot isnt active yet. :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ive got a gamespot complete account. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ji@nBing said: Profit doesn't mean much. These comanies don't care a whole lot about making money on the consoles at this point. They just want to have the most poular one. The numbers speak for themselves. Nintendo was 3rd in sales last round, ie: they lost. 585933525[/snapback] That was about the dumbest thing I've heard in my life... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Gamenews said: Hhahaha! Look at this joker. Yes, companies DONT CARE TO MAKE LOTS OF MONEY. Did you actually say that? 585933547[/snapback] They are looking to make money long term, they know they aren't going to see a profit short term. All 3 companies know that this is going to be a war that will take place over several console releases. It's not about who makes the most money right now, it's about who is #1. The one who estabilshes themselves as #1 will only end up making more money in the future. It's a popularity contest right now. Plain and simple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamenews Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Oneill said: Ive got a gamespot complete account. 585933561[/snapback] Who pays for that crap? rtsp://gwmlive.streamos.com/256_ebms-e3video_050514.asf?ts=1116343007&ttl=43200&cs=D3D1F19EC1EFA53A8D145B0AE9065FDF97DDA37F Free steam, just put it in your WMP URL Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Oneill said: I think you need to read 585933526[/snapback] I need to read? Quote The maximum allowable size for signatures is 170 pixels high by 550 pixels wide. File sizes should be no larger than 50KB. Smaller is preferred as we need to be mindful of our members on dial up access. Your sig is 38K and your avatar is 48K... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phemo Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Erich said: That was about the dumbest thing I've heard in my life... 585933565[/snapback] Yes and no. If you're a 3rd party games producer, what would you want to bring your games out on? The console that's sold the least or the most? That's one instance I can think of - games producers want their games to be available to as many as possible. One example would be the GTA games - out on PS2 and soon to be Xbox, do you see a GC version? No. I'm not slating the GC, but maybe, just maybe, the fact it sold the least of all 3 consoles is part of the reason games like GTA aren't available on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Gamenews said: Who pays for that crap?rtsp://gwmlive.streamos.com/256_ebms-e3video_050514.asf?ts=1116343007&ttl=43200&cs=D3D1F19EC1EFA53A8D145B0AE9065FDF97DDA37F Free steam, just put it in your WMP URL 585933577[/snapback] THANKS CHIEF (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbandonedTrolley Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 jmole said: Live stream at GameCube cafe!: GameCube Cafe 585933535[/snapback] Not to do with the Revolution but looking at that link, those shots for Zelda get me more excited than any of the Next Gen I've seen with exception for Kill Zone Gamecube Cafe said: Nintendo has released new screenshots for The Legend of Zelda screenshots just hours before the Media Briefing. Hit the links to view the awesome new screens. GCCafe will also have gameplay videos of Zelda later next week and highlight clips of the Media Briefing later tonight. :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLegendOfMart Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 username said: I need to read?Your sig is 38K and your avatar is 48K... 585933579[/snapback] It doesnt say anything about combined file sizes, it just mentions sigs shouldnt be over 50k, so button it thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamenews Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Phemo said: Yes and no. If you're a 3rd party games producer, what would you want to bring your games out on? The console that's sold the least or the most? That's one instance I can think of - games producers want their games to be available to as many as possible. One example would be the GTA games - out on PS2 and soon to be Xbox, do you see a GC version? No. I'm not slating the GC, but maybe, just maybe, the fact it sold the least of all 3 consoles is part of the reason games like GTA aren't available on it. 585933583[/snapback] All this means that in the end you want to most profits, and Nintendo has done it. So end of argument. Doesn't matter which way you see it, all companies moves, marketing and sales are all in the end transalate to profits, which means Nintendo did the best. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 I would bring out my game on the console that has the best technology to support the type of game I'd be making. As a game creator, I'm very indiscriminate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phemo Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Gamenews said: All this means that in the end you want to most profits, and Nintendo has done it. So end of argument. Doesn't matter which way you see it, all companies moves, marketing and sales are all in the end transalate to profits, which means Nintendo did the best. 585933593[/snapback] They certainly did, but that doesn't affect the 3rd party producers. 3rd party producers such as EA and Rockstar don't care so much how much money Sony, Nintendo and MS are making on their consoles. They would care more about how well they're selling so that their games are available to the consoles that have sold the most. That means more games are likely to sell for them, therefore more money for them. Of course, the majority of the great games come out on all 3 systems anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Nintendo's stream is so far faster and has some better music then Microsofts. Is it just me or does the music fade in and out for no reason whatsoever. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughing-Man Posted May 17, 2005 Author Share Posted May 17, 2005 Ji@nBing said: They are looking to make money long term, they know they aren't going to see a profit short term. All 3 companies know that this is going to be a war that will take place over several console releases. It's not about who makes the most money right now, it's about who is #1. The one who estabilshes themselves as #1 will only end up making more money in the future. It's a popularity contest right now. Plain and simple. 585933572[/snapback] Then should Apple get out of the hardware or PC business, because they are definitely not #1 in that area. Should the Xbox stop being produced either? It only sold 1 million more then GameCube. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933621 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamenews Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Cryptic_Night said: Nintendo's stream is so far faster and has some better music then Microsofts. 585933619[/snapback] The stream is from GAMESPY. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S7R1K3R Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/game...htm?POE=TECISVA[/img] here is revolution Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 Gamenews said: The stream is from GAMESPY. 585933622[/snapback] touche. I seem to like them more now :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted May 17, 2005 Veteran Share Posted May 17, 2005 Gamenews said: All this means that in the end you want to most profits, and Nintendo has done it. So end of argument. Doesn't matter which way you see it, all companies moves, marketing and sales are all in the end transalate to profits, which means Nintendo did the best. 585933593[/snapback] I can't speak for Sony, since I'm not even sure if they know what they're doing long-term. But Microsoft always thinks years and years ahead. They didn't plan to ever make a profit on the first Xbox. They were immensely elated when it did for the first time last year. But they aren't in a hurry to start making money. They see the Xbox division as an entrypoint into your living room. Selling you the console isn't where they make the money. And selling you games is just the beginning. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/321083-definitive-nintendo-wii-thread/page/7/#findComment-585933630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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