+Matthew S. Subscriber² Posted June 6, 2005 Subscriber² Share Posted June 6, 2005 gah I liked Mac OS X an PPC :'( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 10:26am PDT - ?Now, let?s go to the big topic: Transitions.? 10:27am PDT - 1994-1996 Moto 68K -> PowerPC. ?I wasn?t hear then, but from everything I hear the team did a great job.? 2001-2003: OS9 - OS X. 10:28am PDT - ?It?s time for a third transition. And yes, (puts up slide that says): It?s true.? Next slide is one word: ?Why?? 10:29am PDT - ?I stood up two years ago and promised this (3.0G PowerMac), and we haven?t been able to deliver.? Steve says it?s bigger than that, though. No roadmap for the future based on PowerPC - they can?t see a future. 10:30am PDT - Intel offers not just increased performance, but reduced power consumption. Transition will be complete by WWDC ?07. 586024923[/snapback] No need to repost it here. just discuss. btw, where are you getting the info? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dave- Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 10:32 am This entire last half hour the keynote has been running on an Intel box running Mac OS X. Haha! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted June 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 6, 2005 steve is wearing all black, because he is at the funeral of apple right now 586024931[/snapback] Dude, I'm known far and wide as a harsh Apple critic. But this is quite possibly the smartest move they've made in a long time. Jobs hasn't said yet if there will be an OS X for "regular" PCs. It may very well be hardware locked to Apple's systems (Although I'm certain someone will work around it). But either way, this is a smart move. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 10:31 AM: The Intel Processor switch transition will be long term, with most of the product line in the Intel based chips, June 2007. Steve notes that the Marklar rumors that have been circulating for years are true, that the last five versions of Mac OS X has been compiled for both the PPC and Intel based chips. Sweetness. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Steve demo'ing a Universal binary; that works with PPC & x86 versions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGVL Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Its true. :angry: I guess now is a perfect time to buy all the Macs I'll ever need, before I get an Intel Inside! Apple crapbox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 X86 OS from Apple. Oh god this is a great time to be into computing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Live Veteran Posted June 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 6, 2005 Besides Dothan, Intel Pentium Dual Core chips are power-sucking monsters!!! 586024936[/snapback] Compared to AMD chips, yes. Compared to IBM chips, no. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakz Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 steve is wearing all black, because he is at the funeral of apple right now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I think this is actualy pretty cool I have never been a Mac person but I might try one once they switch to x86 :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 X86!!!! COULD MACOSX RUN ON PC!!!!!! :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 so the real Mac I have now will be special once the Intel based Macs come out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hoffman Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 10:32 am This entire last half hour all demos and keynotes have been running on Intel boxes running Mac OS X *Tekmaven creams. *Tekmaven wave's goodbye to Apple. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaffra Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 10:33am PDT - ?As a matter of fact, this system I?ve been using here?? the keynote?s been running on a P4 3.6GHz all morning? yea its x86 alright Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Holy ****, as absurd as the rumour was I can't believe it's true. This is major! I think it's the best move for Apple by far, but it's a massive, massive gamble! 586024907[/snapback] Dazzla you're the only person I've seen who, like me, can see both sides of a very dangerous coin. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahbinator Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Mac OS X has been leading secret double life. Every Mac project build for Intel and PowerPC and Intel. Every release of Mac OS X has been built for both Intel and PowerPC-based Macs. For the last 5 years. Mac OS X is cross-platform by design. Apple's demo is on an Intel-based system. Jobs shows all Mac OS X Tiger features are already compatible with Intel-based processors. Not done yet. Will put into the developer hands to help Apple finish it. NOES, it happened before the announcement! :omg: But why x86, isn't there a more efficient processor that Intel makes? Now when is microsoft making Windows for PowerPCs :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freakz Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 bloody hell as if we didnt pick that up about xCode... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Intel Inside. Live it up macphiles. :D Plunk! Da da da da! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hoffman Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 ROFL.. giant conspiracy.. What if, there really is no x86 OS X, and Apple is using PearPC for their demos... ROFL Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasondefaoite Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 Besides Dothan, Intel Pentium Dual Core chips are power-sucking monsters!!! 586024936[/snapback] The Pentium M is no power sucking monster Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daybreak Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 ooo.. Assuming Apple doesn't try to lockdown OSX to specific sets of hardware, adoption is going to massively increase :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahbinator Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 I think Microsoft has already made PowerPC versions of Windows :unsure: 586024977[/snapback] At the consumer level? :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 This is one keynote i hope they broadcast later Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted June 6, 2005 Share Posted June 6, 2005 NOES, it happened before the announcement! :omg: But why x86, isn't there a more efficient processor that Intel makes?? Now when is microsoft making Windows for PowerPCs:xx 586024954[/snapback] I think Microsoft has already made PowerPC versions of Windows:unsure:: Remember that the XBOX360 OS is going to run on a PowerPC and I am guessing that it is a version of Windows (i.e. Windows XP Embedded PowerPC Edition?). So when will I be able to buy an x86 copy of Mac OS X? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/4/#findComment-586024977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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