longdogs Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 so i have kind of a stupid question, but what was that song played at the end of the keynote? 586028548[/snapback] I wondered that, liked it and googled for the lyrics : It was Rubberneckin' (Elvis). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586030151 Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted June 7, 2005 Share Posted June 7, 2005 jerry you are refering to the NT KERNEL! There are a lot of other things to be updated than the kernel, the NT kernel is quite good but if you try for example NT 5.1 XP 32-bit agains XP x64 5.2 the majority of those kernel features are not apperant to the user nor the major technologies the users and developers interact with. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586030459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hottoast Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 thanks longdogs! and my response to all of this, lets just chill and see what happenes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586036554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted June 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2005 LMAO at Spartan. /you cant fly when youre high. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586037862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 3.6ghz doesn't seem that bad. :D and we all thought hell was way too hot to get frozen overnight... :p a few hours/days to recompile apps doesn't seem that bad either. Xcode compiler for dummies. :laugh: why the heck classic wasn't as simple as this? :rolleyes: look at who's about to lose her job... and here is her new replacement... :laugh: dude, you're ruining the keynote! get off the stage... :p hi! my name is Paul and I'm Steve's new "biatch"... ;) yes Paul, we'd heard that story before... just get lost and out of the way... :p :rolleyes: Source: Apple WWDC 2005 Keynote Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586037852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted June 9, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 9, 2005 yea that pretty much sums it up, it looks like the transition will be pretty smoothe. im actually excited about this now, it could mean, LOWER PRICES!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586037963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Does this mean that Mac's will be gaming machines now? :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586037979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
icecaveman Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Does this mean that Mac's will be gaming machines now? :s 586037979[/snapback] No it does not as great numbers of developers depend heavily on DirectX. And with Microsoft's XNA, the superior development platform it seems even less likely to change. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586037997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 Just a quick question, anyone here plan on going to Macworld Boston in July? I'll be there, and I may also fly out to San Fransisco, in January for Macworld 2006. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586038015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamthief Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 No it does not as great numbers of developers depend heavily on DirectX. And with Microsoft's XNA, the superior development platform it seems even less likely to change. 586037997[/snapback] Well, it could be if OpenGL is used instead of DirectX. I'm sure converting OpenGL for PowerPC from Intel X86 architechure would be more hassle than recompiling for the same architechure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586038098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahbinator Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 I wondered that, liked it and googled for the lyrics :It was Rubberneckin' (Elvis). 586030151[/snapback] Also the background music during the Apple Store Video. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586038496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEdit Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 There are many, many more competent x86 programmers out there than there are PPC programmers and a LOT of people out there who will stop at nothing to get OSX running on as many PCs as possible.I have foreseen it, along with my own Linux / XP64 / OSX triple-boot configured rig sitting in my home. Lastly, I wish I could see the look on the faces of all the pompous Apple fanboys who loudly and arrogantly proclaimed that a switch to x86 would never happen. Big-endian, Little-endian, Altivec, RISC, CISC... NONSENSE the lot of it. You may all now come back down to earth and enjoy the benefits of living in the real world once you've finished dabbing up the crumbs of humble-pie off your Intel branded mousemats. 586029453[/snapback] It will be very easy to get OS X working on almost any PC via a app like vmware designed to run OS X. Actually running OS X on any PC will be very difficult, and very few people will actually do it. It will most likely require some hardware mods, just like with the xbox. If somebody leaks a copy of OS X that is installed on the dev kits, people may just get it to work on their PC because apple has not finished locking it into their hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586038515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 It will be very easy to get OS X working on almost any PC via a app like vmware designed to run OS X. Actually running OS X on any PC will be very difficult, and very few people will actually do it. It will most likely require some hardware mods, just like with the xbox. If somebody leaks a copy of OS X that is installed on the dev kits, people may just get it to work on their PC because apple has not finished locking it into their hardware. 586038515[/snapback] The OS X that is shipping with the dev kits are locked to those machines. Apple certainly wouldn't let them into the wild without some sort of massive protection Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586038543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neostyle Posted June 9, 2005 Share Posted June 9, 2005 ... Tho I wonder do I get my $999 (or part of it) back when I return it? NO ! what do u expect ? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586039418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted June 10, 2005 Share Posted June 10, 2005 Well, it could be if OpenGL is used instead of DirectX. I'm sure converting OpenGL for PowerPC from Intel X86 architechure would be more hassle than recompiling for the same architechure. 586038098[/snapback] Not really. OpenGL is already a cross platform API - that's sort of the point. If you learn OpenGL on a R6000 running IRIX you should be able to start writting code for PPC/Linux or x86/Windows without much fooling around. You may have to go about getting your windows or graphics context a little different and capturing events might change a little, but those are things that we'd have to deal with no matter what. Apple does have make some mention of OpenGL in their transition guide but most of it is pretty obvious for anybody considering cross-platform applications: "Don't assume byte order when using OpenGL types like GL_Short, GL_Int, etc". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586043301 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AQUaDeX Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 NO ! what do u expect ? :laugh: 586039418[/snapback] :cry: So it's like renting a machine for 1 1/2 years for $999. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586066416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjmUK Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 :cry: So it's like renting a machine for 1 1/2 years for $999. 586066416[/snapback] That is precisely true. However, this works out to be approximately ?552.48 (not very approximate;))). For a developer, this isn't that bad overall because they get to recompile and test their software on the Intel Mac (including Intel tweak enhancements if desired) and have plenty of time to release their Universal Binaries and have a shole product line ready before the official launch of the Intel Macs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/328955-official-wwdc-2005-keynote-discussion/page/18/#findComment-586067835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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