Deviate Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 For all of the people arguing about whether or not it can be run on VMWare or Virtual PC software as virtual desktops; don't forget that VMWare requires (at least for a decent experience on the virtual machine) that you install VMWare tools to serve as drivers for the mouse, keyboard, sound, graphics, etc. At this point in time, I'm pretty sure that VMWare hasn't released any updated verion to support VMWare tools for the OSX Operating System. I am looking forward to a time when an Intel/AMD version of Mac OSX hits the stores. Personally, I'm a Windows fan, but I still love the UI for OSX. Even if it is a fake, it's great publicity in the sense that it has people thinking about the product. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Why don't they make a OSX version for PC users (Intel/AMD) ? I would switch to OSX if it was avaible for PC. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 oh yeah? im sure like windows and linux you do not need drivers to get it to install and boot up.?:laugh::? sure you wont have sound or 3d graphics or... much of anything else but i bet osx will boot up no less.no it has been confirmed fake.:yes:es: 586055889[/snapback] Windows installs the drivers you need. OS X will probably only install drivers needed for Macintosh hardware Why don't they make a OSX version for PC users (Intel/AMD) ? I would switch to OSX if it was avaible for PC. But you wouldn't buy their hardware, which is why they won't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 (edited) Why don't they make a OSX version for PC users (Intel/AMD) ? I would switch to OSX if it was avaible for PC. 586055911[/snapback] Because in the best case it means you'd buy OS X for $130 netting Apple $35*. In the worst case you'd pirate it for yourself and all your friends netting Apple $0. Right now you'd have to buy a Mac Mini at $500 netting apple $150 in the worst case or a dual processor Powermac netting Apple $1000+ in the best. Apple would have to subsidize every "lost" Mac Mini sale with 4 Mac OS X sales, every iMac/iBook sale with 10 OS X sales, and every dual 2.7/17" Powerbook sale with 30 OS X sales just to maintain the same level of revenue that they have today. That sort of sales increase just isn't in the cards: Windows is "good enough" for the majority of people, and even if it wasn't they'd also have to find replacements for all of their software, get up to speed with the new operating system, and find the time to make the switch in the first place. * the 30% margin is based on Apple 05Q2 filings - it's an average of all products/softawre/services but it's the only hard number we've got. Edited June 13, 2005 by the evn show Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 If its based on FreeBSD then it should be easy. Correct? 586055723[/snapback] But the kernel isn't FreeBSD, it's Mach 3.0 with a bunch of FreeBSD stuff on top of it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted June 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 13, 2005 Windows installs the drivers you need. OS X will probably only install drivers needed for Macintosh hardware 586055935[/snapback] Beat me to it. Thanks. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormchaser2010 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1041.html Doesn't mention Intel support anywhere. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586055938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuqueelukee Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Yeah, I've got a dev build of Mac OS X for Atari. :rolleyes: (And that's how easy it is to fake those screenshots.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 I dont see why apple didnt use amd chips because intel is to mainstreem. Amd is a much better quality company. There procs are better on every level than intels. They are cheeper too and are closer to IBM procs than intel. My 2 cents 586056169[/snapback] Realize the mac osx intel builds have been internal in apple since well. I guess since apple started...or at least a long time ago. AMD may not have been around then. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufis Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I dont see why apple didnt use amd chips because intel is to mainstreem. Amd is a much better quality company. There procs are better on every level than intels. They are cheeper too and are closer to IBM procs than intel. My 2 cents Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ufis Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Still the x86 arcatecture if they can do it on a intel it wont be that hard port it to amd Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 This thread isn't about Intel vs AMD. Back on topic Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetman Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 wow now its turning into an amd v. intel debate, they specfically said they considered amd but they didnt feel amd could keep up with the supply they were looking for Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetman Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Realize the mac osx intel builds have been internal in apple since well. I guess since apple started...or at least a long time ago. AMD may not have been around then. 586056170[/snapback] AMD has been around almost, if not as long as Apple Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the evn show Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I dont see why apple didnt use amd chips because intel is to mainstreem. Amd is a much better quality company. There procs are better on every level than intels. They are cheeper too and are closer to IBM procs than intel. My 2 cents 586056169[/snapback] Is it really that hard to guess? AMD has 1/10th the production capacity of Intel. Intel is offers complete systems - everything from chipsets to processors, drive controllers, wireless technology. Intel is second to none when it comes to notebook processors - more than half of Apples business is portable machines I'm sure Apple didn't go into this sort of transition without carefully weighing out all the options. If two years from now Intel can't deliver whatever it was they promised then Apple can always jump over to AMD, or even serve a mix of both. Intel was probably the safest bet, something you'd want if you were telling all of your developers that they're playing that transition game once again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loulinkj7 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Haha the whole concept of the Mac OS working on a regular pc is very nice indeed. However i can't say much for apple aiding the evil empire, unholy trinity or whatever nickname you deem it to be. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marimol Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well guys, the torrent going around as: Mac OS X Tiger X86 READNFO-XISO is a complete FAKe! When the image is booted, it shows a picture of a guy showing off his B**t Ho*e. So much for that, later. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted June 13, 2005 Author Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well guys, the torrent going around as: Mac OS X Tiger X86 READNFO-XISO is a complete FAKe! When the image is booted, it shows a picture of a guy showing off his B**t Ho*e. So much for that, later. 586056240[/snapback] That sounds fake Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loulinkj7 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Is it really that hard to guess? AMD has 1/10th the production capacity of Intel. Intel is offers complete systems - everything from chipsets to processors, drive controllers, wireless technology. Intel is second to none when it comes to notebook processors - more than half of Apples business is portable machines I'm sure Apple didn't go into this sort of transition without carefully weighing out all the options. If two years from now Intel can't deliver whatever it was they promised then Apple can always jump over to AMD, or even serve a mix of both. Intel was probably the safest bet, something you'd want if you were telling all of your developers that they're playing that transition game once again. 586056214[/snapback] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I agree 100% percent with you except on the notion that apple will jump over to AMD. I mean comon do you really think in the signed agreement there is any lee way for that? I doubt intel would allow that especially since they are making such a huge commitment to each other. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loulinkj7 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Well guys, the torrent going around as: Mac OS X Tiger X86 READNFO-XISO is a complete FAKe! When the image is booted, it shows a picture of a guy showing off his B**t Ho*e. So much for that, later. 586056240[/snapback] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- LOL how big was the actual downloaded file? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProgramGeek Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 We really need a slashdot comment system on here -- You people can't ****ing stay on topic -- The other majority of you say stuff without even knowing.. Ugh, with /. comments we could just mod your asses down so we didn't have to waste our time reading your bull crap. Damn kids' Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
APL88 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 It is a fake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
loulinkj7 Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 We really need a slashdot comment system on here -- You people can't ****ing stay on topic -- The other majority of you say stuff without even knowing.. Ugh, with /. comments we could just mod your asses down so we didn't have to waste our time reading your bull crap.Damn kids' 586056275[/snapback] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow dude if you don't like it then don't post b/c your taking us off topic. :-p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 I don't understand how anyone could post a screenshot, even if it were real considering they wouldn't be able to get it running due to no driver support. You could MAYBE get an installer screenshot, but that's as far as it will go. 586055639[/snapback] ^What he said :cool:If this "leak" doesn't hit Usenet within a two days, then I consider it nonexistant, which I still do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowlick Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 At first I thought the picture of that Compaq running OS X was real, then when looking I thought it was probably just a real Mac hidden somewhere else and right before closing the tab with the picture I noticed something. I don't know about you're computer, but mine actually uses the lights to tell me it's on! Edit: of course maybe it's the HD activity light, but it still doesn't explain why the monitor has no light in its ... light. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/331263-apple-mac-os-x-1041-for-intel-hits-piracy-sites/page/9/#findComment-586056332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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