someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 The colors on my PC are PERFECT, So I don't know what your talking about when you keep bragging about mac's color management. If someone manages to mess up their colors on something they are designing, it is because they are a jackass, not because of the OS/System. And yes, I photoshop ALL the time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 someguy03 said: The colors on my PC are PERFECT, So I don't know what your talking about when you keep bragging about mac's color management. If someone manages to mess up their colors on something they are designing, it is because they are a jackass, not because of the OS/System.And yes, I photoshop ALL the time. 586086441[/snapback] Thanks, you just proved my point that you dont know what are you talking about. Yes, because using photoshop makes you a professional designer :p hahaha Get out of here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Have you ever managed to screw up the colors of something you were designing on a PC? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 someguy03 said: Have you ever managed to screw up the colors of something you were designing on a PC? 586086446[/snapback] Me? No. Because I know what to use and what color profiles to use. I know how to calibrate monitor, archives and printers color profiles (Something that most "designers" dont know how to do btw") But thats a hard work in windows just to reach 90% of the real color solution. Something that Macs do automatically and perfectly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch00 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 looks like joseph was right hehe :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrar Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 someguy03 said: The colors on my PC are PERFECT, So I don't know what your talking about when you keep bragging about mac's color management. If someone manages to mess up their colors on something they are designing, it is because they are a jackass, not because of the OS/System.And yes, I photoshop ALL the time. 586086441[/snapback] :rofl: o you, go away Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 Hah, I disagree with you, so suddenly I dont know what I'm talking about. I find that funny. Let me clarify that I am not trying to prove which is better for design, I am just saying, I have found nothing wrong with the colors on a XP system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 Seriously. Some arguments here are laughable. I cant believe the ignorance about colormanagement and color profiles among the users. Thats why real graphic design its so well paid. Its just not about doing "nice" things. Claiming that you do serious design just because you use photoshop its ridiculous. A true designer has a vast amount to knowledge that you cant even imagine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I never claimed I do serious design, I am just claiming that I am not completlely clueless on the issue. As for me, This has become more of an attack on me than a debate, so I am leaving. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 "sir with all u respect I think u are a <<removed>>, I told u before that macs have a pdf graphics engine that can manage not only color management but also can handle better audio, animation and video, be more open mind and don't be close to u own mind" = sir i believe u dont even know what ur saying [sanctified]: i never said anything about color managment being better on pc, for all i know ur just making it up or u could be true. second, "And why a graphic designer needs the latest Graphic card again?" are serious dude? if having new technology is a bad thing .. iam not sure how to argue with u .. go back to using a g3 (or what ever it was called) and then we'll talk about "newer" technology third, "BTW. Have you even tried the quark windows version and what it does?" u said that it was properity mac software (meaning only for mac) and last "big animation studios uses g5" they do use them .. but never for real hardwork in 3danimation .. cause osx barely has any good uptodate rendering or animation packages "Yeah, if you are 'designing' a new game... But serious professional design requires the reliable and accurate colors. Something XP doesn't offer. Yeah it plays games, and is ?ber-cool... But it isn't built for DESIGN, which is supposedly why you started this thread, but I am frankly seeing no evidence of you listening to anyone." = so when ur modeling a 400k+ poly model for a cg movie u wouldnt be interested in opengl performance? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 someguy03 said: I have found nothing wrong with the colors on a XP system. 586086460[/snapback] Again. How can you find something worng if you dont use them in the field at question? :| arghhhh I dont know why you dont get it!!!! Its like saying someone who doesnt drive and suddenly he says that he has found nothing wrong comparing a Tsuru with a Ferrari!!!! Arghhh. My head hurts. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 chroniq said: [sanctified]: i never said anything about color managment being better on pc, for all i know ur just making it up or u could be true. 586086466[/snapback] Then why dont you go and do your homework instead of beign the closeminded one in this thread? You just admited that you dont have a clue about it. I rest my case. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 "A true designer has a vast amount to knowledge that you cant even imagine." so knowning color managment just happens to be the best thing in "designing" .. :/ .. no room for creativity then if u cant tell a diffrence between cmyk and rgb :) .. other then printing and monitor managment i really cant see how they are important to "all" desingers (ie web designer, game designers, 3d designers...etc) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 someguy03 said: The colors on my PC are PERFECT, So I don't know what your talking about when you keep bragging about mac's color management. If someone manages to mess up their colors on something they are designing, it is because they are a jackass, not because of the OS/System.And yes, I photoshop ALL the time. 586086441[/snapback] Got to be kidding me, you do not know what you are posting about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 santified: having better color managment doesnt mean the osx is so much supprior :) .. it just makes a little better .. calm down .. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 chroniq said: "A true designer has a vast amount to knowledge that you cant even imagine." so knowning color managment just happens to be the best thing in "designing" .. :/ .. no room for creativity then if u cant tell a diffrence between cmyk and rgb :) .. other then printing and monitor managment i really cant see how they are important to "all" desingers (ie web designer, game designers, 3d designers...etc) 586086473[/snapback] web, game and 3d design its like just 15% of the design industry. You should know that :/ The main field of design its printing. Thats why its so important. Creativity its damn important. But it doesnt mean sh*t if you keep screweing your works in offset. And if it seems that I am attacking anyone. I am sorry. But I am a laboral graphic designer and I am studying professional graphic design in my university. Of course I am sensitive about it. Quote santified: having better color managment doesnt mean the osx is so much supprior smile.gif .. it just makes a little better .. calm down .. If you are making an OS for a design market of course that makes your OS superior. :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 santified u should reply to my other comments on what u said rather then trying to pick a fight about color managments .. like how having less software is better and how having less hardware is better .. IT WILL ALL BE BETTER BECAUSE U HAVE COLOR MANAGMENT :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 "web, game and 3d design its like just 15% of the design industry." getting statistics out of no where doesnt make them true :/ ... have u even considered web design and how huge it is Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsaad1 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 if you are in the designing buisness i am guessing color managment is probably your top priority. That alone would probably make you want to use the mac over the pc. Its that simple, all it comes down to is color managment. OSX is better at it, and thats why designers use it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I ask you WinMacLin, rather than be immature and just insult me, why not come out and explain yourself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 chroniq said: santified u should reply to my other comments on what u said rather then trying to pick a fight about color managments .. like how having less software is better and how having less hardware is better .. IT WILL ALL BE BETTER BECAUSE U HAVE COLOR MANAGMENT :D 586086489[/snapback] Because a vast hardware options its not needed in OSx! It seems that you are just trying to make me mad instead of really trying to understand!!! Ok, lets see if you get this? What its the main market field with ATI and Nvidia? Gamers! And with Apple? Designers Great! We differentiated the fields. Now, tell me. With the current cards used by OSx in standard grpahic design. where do you use that cards? :| And I said standard design. Dont start with games and modeling. Now. It seems that your entire hardware debate revolts in Graphic cards. And before that you was talking about game benchmarks? Do I see a pattern here? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyClaw Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 chroniq said: santified u should reply to my other comments on what u said rather then trying to pick a fight about color managments .. like how having less software is better and how having less hardware is better .. IT WILL ALL BE BETTER BECAUSE U HAVE COLOR MANAGMENT :D 586086489[/snapback] well u asked why people use them for graphic design and colour management is a huge issue. most arent concerned with quake 3 benchmarks so why address it when it doesnt pertain to the topic YOU selected. it seems your main reason for this thread is just flaming and comparing the 2 systems, not design ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chroniq Posted June 19, 2005 Author Share Posted June 19, 2005 MonkeyClaw: i already said like 3 times .. opengl performance is IMPORTANT for design .. if ur into 3d design .. or is 3d design not part of design .. tell me once more is it not related to the topic .. NOW READ before u reply Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086510 Share on other sites More sharing options...
someguy03 Posted June 19, 2005 Share Posted June 19, 2005 I can understand why [sanctified] feels that his colormanagment is such a powerful argument. To a designer, having everything PERFECT is the most important thing. To some designers, even if it isnt noticeable to the casual person, having their product looking exactly how they want is more important than anything else. George lucas came out with special editons of all his original star war's movies that included new 3D effects. Why? Because even though everyone was pleased, he himself was not. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086515 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctified Veteran Posted June 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 19, 2005 chroniq said: "web, game and 3d design its like just 15% of the design industry." getting statistics out of no where doesnt make them true :/ ... have u even considered web design and how huge it is 586086498[/snapback] Web design its huge. But not as huge as you like to think and of course not as big as standard design. Take a look around you, in the streets, in the locals, in the TV. From the shape of certain furniture to the colors in a label. Our life its full of design! Design outside the web! I have assist to many confereces about design and the exponents always repeat us this: "Dont focus on web design" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/334013-why-is-everyone-using-mac-for-design-still/page/3/#findComment-586086516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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