Fred Derf Veteran Posted June 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2005 I don't like this: (IRC)"Note: Any infraction of these guidelines will result in a warning placed against your Neowin account and will be added to your overall warning level." How can you know if someone wasn't posing as you? :huh: It's not like you guys have matched up the forum db with the IRC logins. 586121370[/snapback] It is not a bad idea for members to reserve their member name with nickserv even if they are not interested in IRC. However, I get your point, it would be better if the database was integrated but we would need to be a lot more restrictive on Neowin usernames (especially when it comes to special characters). Still, we have other methods to ensure this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586122485 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomi Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 So I guess with the new rules you guys had to add a disclaimer, eh? Neowin is not responsible for hot coffee spillages or wardrobe malfunctions. Who spilled the coffee and tried to sue!? :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586122557 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Nickserv.If you register your IRC nickname, then nobody else will be able to use it :) 586121981[/snapback] Yeah I took care of that I know how to use IRC. My comment was a universal question it wasn't conserning myself. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Still, we have other methods to ensure this. 586122485[/snapback] such as? This is a security issue. Your methods of identity should be disclosed to the members because IRC is pretty crappy when it comes to ID someone. all you have is the ability to ban them via HOST NAME AND IP ADDRESS. So all you have to rely on to ban someone is that with IRC. Then run into the IPB Admin CP and check for a match? Thats all you have to rely on it. IP Addreses / Hostnames are pretty uncertain. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 We can quickly verify the IP address and verify it against forum IP's used by the member. 586124259[/snapback] dude I have at least 10 IP's I use Neowin. IP Address Matchups are bad. What are you going to do Look at a state? hrmm. is xyz in AZ or has he fleed to france. (N) You need a better system then that. Otherwise don't punish someone on the boards keep that crap seperate. If you get banned from IRC you're banned but don't bring that stuff up to the boards! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted June 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2005 I don't like this: (IRC)"Note: Any infraction of these guidelines will result in a warning placed against your Neowin account and will be added to your overall warning level." How can you know if someone wasn't posing as you? :huh: It's not like you guys have matched up the forum db with the IRC logins. 586121370[/snapback] We can quickly verify the IP address and verify it against forum IP's used by the member. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 dude I have at least 10 IP's I use Neowin.IP Address Matchups are bad. What are you going to do Look at a state? hrmm. is xyz in AZ or has he fleed to france. (N) You need a better system then that. Otherwise don't punish someone on the boards keep that crap seperate. If you get banned from IRC you're banned but don't bring that stuff up to the boards! 586124266[/snapback] Sorry, but it's already been implemented and in use since the irc channel began. We have yet to have ANY trouble verifying who people are. Obviously we aren't going to share all the ways we verify people. If you were fully in the know on what we use, you might have an arguement. Neowin = board + irc. People don't have to like it, but that's the way it is. There will not be separate warning systems. You can use 50 ips if you want. That won't change anything. We will still be able to verify who you are. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted June 26, 2005 Veteran Share Posted June 26, 2005 dude I have at least 10 IP's I use Neowin.IP Address Matchups are bad. What are you going to do Look at a state? hrmm. is xyz in AZ or has he fleed to france. (N) You need a better system then that. Otherwise don't punish someone on the boards keep that crap seperate. If you get banned from IRC you're banned but don't bring that stuff up to the boards! 586124266[/snapback] So? As soon as you post, that IP is permanently logged. It's very easy to match this stuff up and the guys who hover in IRC have had no issues doing so and have even caught a few people trying to evade their ban by hanging out in IRC. All in all, it works and is fine. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 Yeah I took care of that I know how to use IRC. My comment was a universal question it wasn't conserning myself. 586124238[/snapback] And the Nickserv is the universal answer. Steven, our IPB has so many security mods and IP address mods that it is very easy to track down accounts, even ones that use multiple IP's. These are custom mods by our very own staff, so we are pretty confident when we are looking for someone. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelob Posted June 26, 2005 Share Posted June 26, 2005 And the Nickserv is the universal answer.Steven, our IPB has so many security mods and IP address mods that it is very easy to track down accounts, even ones that use multiple IP's. These are custom mods by our very own staff, so we are pretty confident when we are looking for someone. 586124659[/snapback] Maybe you should put them up on invisionize :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586124669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 I was reading the IRC Rules and saw this O.o"Neowin IRC Rules (Last updated 24th July 2005)" You mean June? 586114954[/snapback] Read the first page. :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586125848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Maybe you should put them up on invisionize :p 586124669[/snapback] So people can figure out workarounds? No way. hehe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586126771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codegen Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Take my advice: Don't use the google script to go google warez. I earned a 15 day suspension from IRC AND the forum. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586127459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codegen Posted June 27, 2005 Share Posted June 27, 2005 Sorry, but it's already been implemented and in use since the irc channel began. We have yet to have ANY trouble verifying who people are.Obviously we aren't going to share all the ways we verify people. If you were fully in the know on what we use, you might have an arguement. Neowin = board + irc. People don't have to like it, but that's the way it is. There will not be separate warning systems. You can use 50 ips if you want. That won't change anything. We will still be able to verify who you are. 586124305[/snapback] Is that why you have ot match up your e-mail as well? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/336126-community-rules-updated-irc-rules-added/page/2/#findComment-586127464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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