Tungsten T Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 HELL YEA!!!!! All firefox needs is a sidebar Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) It's been decided that the next major official release of Firefox will be version 1.5 instead of version 1.1. This does not affect the release date of September and changes nothing at all except the versioning number. This change is due to the significant increase in features and stability that the versioning deserves an increase. I'll post official statements later but for now here is the new roadmap Roadmap I'll update my 'Road to Firefox "1.1" bug report' later tomorrow along with the graphs. (see sig for that information) For the last several months, we've been discussing the versioning of the upcoming Firefox release.One major consideration in this decision was that the sheer volume of changes in the Firefox core (Gecko) made a minor .1 increment seem misleading. While it may not be obvious by looking simply at release dates, today's Gecko core of Firefox has seen nearly 16 months worth of changes compared to what shipped in Firefox 1.0. This is because we created our Gecko 1.7 branch (the branch from which Firefox 1.0 shipped) back in April of 2004. At that time, Gecko development on the trunk continued and very little of that work was carried over to the 1.7 branch to be included in Firefox 1.0. Another consideration was that we've made some major improvements to the Firefox application, especially in the update and extension systems that warrant more than a minor version bump. Calling it 1.1 would suggest to most users that this was a minor update when in fact it is quite major and all 1.0 users really should move forward for a much improved product. Source: Asa Dotzler's Blog Edited July 21, 2005 by supernova_00 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercuryx013 Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Thanks for the update. I'm excited for this release. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 firefox does have a sidebar ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 looking forward to trying that 1.4 beta. Until then I'll stick with the official released :) Thanks for the update! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Thanks for the update. When did they decide to do this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Interesting... though I think it is a logical move. I look forward to the improved update system, as redownloading the entire file is inefficient and impractical - other than that Firefox is fine already. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sn00pie Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Great stuff, long live Firefox! :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppleDave Veteran Posted July 21, 2005 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2005 Do you know what casued the scrap? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thollian Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 interesting... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tungsten T Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 firefox does have a sidebar ;) 586245014[/snapback] I mean a "real" sidebar like the one in MSN 9 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShell Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 That's pretty interesting. I can't wait. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P!P Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I've always wondered why it was 1.1 instead of 1.5. Good for them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586245414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucianmarin Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 (edited) What version will be the next Thunderbird? 1.1 or 1.5? So there will not be Firefox 2.0 based on Gecko 2.0 (regarding the last plan for Firefox 1.5 with Gecko 1.9) Now we will have Firefox 1.5 based on Gecko 1.8, maybe Firefox 2.0 with Gecko 1.9, and later next year Firefox 3.0 on Gecko 2.0 (the biggest Gecko release). Edited July 21, 2005 by Kalphegor Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kak Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 what version will be the next thunderbird? 1.1 or 1.5? 586246114[/snapback] Probably 1.5 since the updates go hand in hand. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Vector.. Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Do you know what casued the scrap? 586245336[/snapback] Because of the huge amount of bug fixes and features added :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murkey Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Hopefully the improved update will be implemented first, it's a pain to upgrade with 56k connections... =/ OT: The spelling of the title is wrong, shouldn't it be "scrapped"? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCheese Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 It's been decided that the next major official release of Firefox will be version 1.5 instead of version 1.1. This does not affect the release date of September and changes nothing at all except the versioning number. This change is due to the significant increase in features and stability that the versioning deserves an increase. I'll post official statements later but for now here is the new roadmapRoadmap I'll update my 'Road to Firefox "1.1" bug report' later tomorrow along with the graphs. (see sig for that information) 586245002[/snapback] I find it sad that somebody like you can be so obsessed with an internet browser. And a mediocre browser at that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david.rothera Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 I find it sad that somebody like you can be so obsessed with an internet browser. And a mediocre browser at that. 586246743[/snapback] Do I detect a hint of fanboyism? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCheese Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 Do I detect a hint of fanboyism? 586246772[/snapback] No, I just think its sad that he is such a fan boy, and I mentioned that I don't like firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 No, I just think its sad that he is such a fan boy, and I mentioned that I don't like firefox. 586246792[/snapback] Of course he is fan boy but least he knows what is talking about and knows a lot of detail like the bug reports etc nad how the project is unfolding. The fan boy I hate is OMG< 1337 f1r3f0x rox! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586246826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted July 21, 2005 Author Share Posted July 21, 2005 Here is a statement from a mozilla driver: For the last several months, we've been discussing the versioning of the upcoming Firefox release.One major consideration in this decision was that the sheer volume of changes in the Firefox core (Gecko) made a minor .1 increment seem misleading. While it may not be obvious by looking simply at release dates, today's Gecko core of Firefox has seen nearly 16 months worth of changes compared to what shipped in Firefox 1.0. This is because we created our Gecko 1.7 branch (the branch from which Firefox 1.0 shipped) back in April of 2004. At that time, Gecko development on the trunk continued and very little of that work was carried over to the 1.7 branch to be included in Firefox 1.0. Another consideration was that we've made some major improvements to the Firefox application, especially in the update and extension systems that warrant more than a minor version bump. Calling it 1.1 would suggest to most users that this was a minor update when in fact it is quite major and all 1.0 users really should move forward for a much improved product. Source: Asa Dotzler's Blog Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586247666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted July 21, 2005 Share Posted July 21, 2005 thanks supernova_00 and I agree with them. Lots of major changes and 1.1 doesn't reflect how many changes there are. Good call. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586247694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
99 to Life Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 so what, is it going to have a new look also? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586257186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernova_00 Posted July 23, 2005 Author Share Posted July 23, 2005 nope will look the same Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/346988-firefox-11-scrapped-15-it-is/#findComment-586258124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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