Kaidiir Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 :) I'm glad its back too. I think the sidebar has great potential to be what the start menu always wished it was. You know, with system resource graphs, email notifiers, integrated IM windows...etc. What I liked about the sidebar in LH 4074 was the fact that it logged all the windows OS alert windows...even things as benign as a LAN connectifity message. It was cool, and it could be quite useful. Point being, I think the sidebar could be a really good thing for Vista. It would need to be able to be disabled by default, though. Also be able to only take up a little bit of space. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 So now no features were ommited from Vista :cool: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegasoXP Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 You Can use a side bar in Windows XP it's called "Desktop Sidebar" it's pretty cool and have a lot of plugins. very usefull if you get used to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neostyle Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 On the SidebarWhy was the Sidebar pulled? Joe Peterson said that MS had originally assumed that more people would have widescreen monitors by now, or dual monitor setups. The idea was that a sidebar on a widescreen or dual monitor wouldn't take up that much real estate. But it hasn't happened. And they don't see it happening by the end of next year. So the basic thinking behind it fell away. seems there are too many labs in redmond :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveMasterT Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 oh man, i love this... some people are so glad that it's back, but there were so many people whining about how it was the biggest peice of crap ever back when it first debuted. personally, i would just turn it off... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
madnuke Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 It would depend, i would turn it off when I was doing something important. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
df_dukkar Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 If they allow custom content like can be done with dashboard and it can be assigned a shortcut key so it appears and disappears completely when desired, I see now problem with it. Would be nice to have when I need quick weather info and such. 586314522[/snapback] the only post i can consider intelligent + thoughtful out of 4 pages of posts. go bangbang023. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetix63 Veteran Posted August 2, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 2, 2005 I'm pretty glad it's back, but I do NOT want to be limited to microsoft sanctioned information appearing in it. I'm already having visions of this being a platform to provide MSN Bloat.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314965 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojoey Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Good news ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586314992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
- diego - Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 i don't understand nothing :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristotle-dude Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 So now no features were ommited from Vista :cool: 586314711[/snapback] WinFS to name one? You are so predictable. I would not call the sidebar a major feature. In fact, most people without widscreen monitors would want to turn it off anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tktino Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 http://www.internet-nexus.com/images/vista_sidebar.jpg Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neostyle Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Removed at Microsoft's requestCiting trade secrets, Microsoft has asked me to remove this posting. After a brief period of introspection, I've elected to do so. Hopefully, the 6 people who actually read this blog will understand my utter capitulation. Here's what all the fuss is about. Note that this image is a still from a movie found on a public Microsoft Web site. I guess it's only OK when the leak comes directly from Microsoft, eh? duhhh... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 WinFS to name one? You are so predictable.I would not call the sidebar a major feature. In fact, most people without widscreen monitors would want to turn it off anyway. 586315102[/snapback] Its not as if they have scrapped it, its still being developed and will be available after Vista ships as an add-on in some form or other. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny McCormick Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Great news Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Arcanine Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 As for the *boycott IE* mantra, THAT dog shouldn't hunt in any way, shape, or form. That sort of thinking means that there is only one *proper* way to browse the Web, and is NOT what the Web (or the Internet in general) is about. If you are going to take IE to task, it should be because of security issues. Not because it fails to follow *standards* (which Mozilla, Opera, etc. don't always do, either) and not because of features it offers that the competition doesn't. 586314223[/snapback] Have you ever tried to write a webpage correctly and get it to work in IE? It is a pain. Many web developers are very unhappy people because of it, and that is an understatement. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiveMasterT Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 Have you ever tried to write a webpage correctly and get it to work in IE? It is a pain. Many web developers are very unhappy people because of it, and that is an understatement. 586315609[/snapback] oh man, im in the other boat... i wrote a page in notepad and loaded it up in IE and it worked fine and then i opened it up in firefox and the borders on my tables were all screwed, it refuses to run one of the scripts for an image transition (i could understand the effect not working, but basic java script makes the image appear so you would think it would at least appear) and some other crap to. im a very unhappy person because now it seems like in order to get anything to work the way i want it to i gotta redo a huge chunk of my style sheet. i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible. seriously, it's so retarted.... but i digress... back on topic, and i really apologize for the off topic post... delete it if need be, but i needed it off my chest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted August 2, 2005 Share Posted August 2, 2005 i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible. seriously, it's so retarted.... 586315897[/snapback] The browsers that do a decent job of following standards, like Konqueror and Opera, have less market share than firefox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586315976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Well, now that Paul Thurrott has leaked the fact that Sidebar WILL in fact be back in Vista come Beta 2, I'll go ahead and post some more information. First off I'd like to say that I do not condone at all Paul's actions of constantly leaking information, though after I heard that Sidebar is already back in builds, I just waited to do a blog post knowing that someone would leak the information in a matter of hours anyway. ROFL http://www.extended64.com/blogs/ajerman/ar...08/02/1116.aspx incase anyone didn't read this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586316140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
amrinders87 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Hope it does not suck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586316486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shining Arcanine Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 oh man, im in the other boat... i wrote a page in notepad and loaded it up in IE and it worked fine and then i opened it up in firefox and the borders on my tables were all screwed, it refuses to run one of the scripts for an image transition (i could understand the effect not working, but basic java script makes the image appear so you would think it would at least appear) and some other crap to. im a very unhappy person because now it seems like in order to get anything to work the way i want it to i gotta redo a huge chunk of my style sheet.i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible. seriously, it's so retarted.... but i digress... back on topic, and i really apologize for the off topic post... delete it if need be, but i needed it off my chest. 586315897[/snapback] Maybe if you knew how to write web pages you wouldn't have that problem. Until then, you have only yourself to blame. Check this out: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/journey/ The browsers that do a decent job of following standards, like Konqueror and Opera, have less market share than firefox. 586315976[/snapback] Firefox does a heck of alot better job than IE. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586316540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolution Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 Hopefully they'll keep it for the final release :) At the very least, they can leave it on until they revamp it or someone else does for true functionality :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586316562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted August 3, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 3, 2005 Giving it to us as an option will be great :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586317032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankyone Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 omg I found it :ninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586317238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian397 Posted August 3, 2005 Share Posted August 3, 2005 omg I found it :ninja: 586317238[/snapback] omg, they hid one in Windows Xp too :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/352975-windows-vista-sidebar-returns/page/3/#findComment-586317253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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