Dark Ride Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 The candidates: * DVD RW LG Double Layer +/- 16X * DVD RW SAMSUNG TS-H552 Double Layer +/- 16X * DVD RW ASUS DRW-1608P/D +/- 16X I'm gonna buy some new hardware these days [RAM, Mouse, Gamepad, Keyboard, ...] and I thought about a DVD writer lately.It's urgent, but I'd like to be prepared if a DVD crosses my way and needs to be burned :devil: I currently have a LG writer [52x32x42x] which is realy good and a Samsung DVD-ROM [16x] which I'm not happy with because it's very noisy :pinch: so I'd like to get rid of the Samsung drive aswell. So what do you think is the best out of those three DVD burners ? They are all double layer +/- 16x writers ... but what makes the difference ? :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 BenQ DW1640. don't think twice about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Get a DW1640 or an ND-3540. Unless you wanna splurge on a Plextor PX-740A or PX-716AL. The best of the best, but also the most expensive. If you must chose from those 3, I'd go with Asus. It doesn't even come close to the others that were reccomended though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 those are the choices i have dude. EDIT: btw, I also asked 'what makes the difference'.So you gotta have a reason why you recommend one over another ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 The Asus is the only one out of those that burns DVD-R DL as well as DVD+R DL. And at a pretty decent speed, too (6x). That reason enough? Hehe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Dark Ride said: those are the choices i have dude. 586328736[/snapback] ah! bosadjanin. :) zao mi je sto nemozes da uzmes DW1640, stvarno je najbolji rezac sto postoji za tu cenu.. od tih tri, ja bih izabrao LG. jedini je sto snima DVD-RAM, a ostalo sve solidno radi. umm i hope you speak Yugoslavian... :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ajapi said: The Asus is the only one out of those that burns DVD-R DL as well as DVD+R DL. And at a pretty decent speed, too (6x). That reason enough? Hehe. 586328753[/snapback] well yea, but -R DL is still an obscure and unsupported format and i doubt that will change. i'd much rather go with the dying DVD-RAM support. i don't know what chips Asus uses, but LG is known for making quality burners and the GSA-4164B (i'm thinking that's the one on display there) does well all-around. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 MustNotSleep said: well yea, but -R DL is still an obscure and unsupported format and i doubt that will change. i'd much rather go with the dying DVD-RAM support. i don't know what chips Asus uses, but LG is known for making quality burners and the GSA-4164B (i'm thinking that's the one on display there) does well all-around. 586328778[/snapback] Would you call DVD-RAM a very supported medium? DVD-R DL will no doubt grow. The same cannot be said about DVD-RAM, which has been made obsolete by the dominance of DVD+-RWs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marduk Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 I bought the LG one, or one similar, seems to be working great! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porsche Design Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 lg i own 2 lg drives and i am very happy with it, lg bundles with nero and i think thats great too. -internal dvdrw/cd combo (a few years back) -external gsa-5163d super-multi dvd/cd rewriter (a few months back) other brands i've heard neowin members blab about: plextor benq pioneer nec Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronik Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 MustNotSleep said: BenQ DW1640. don't think twice about it. 586328711[/snapback] you can't go wrong with a BenQ, I got one and it is by far the best burner for money, just check out some of the reviews and youll know what i'm talking about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 kronik said: you can't go wrong with a BenQ, I got one and it is by far the best burner for money, just check out some of the reviews and youll know what i'm talking about. 586328849[/snapback] No doubt about it :) Nothing short of a Plextor will beat it. Hehe, Im a bit of a Plextor fanboy. For the price, though, the BenQ is just too good :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ajapi said: Would you call DVD-RAM a very supported medium? DVD-R DL will no doubt grow. The same cannot be said about DVD-RAM, which has been made obsolete by the dominance of DVD+-RWs. 586328798[/snapback] yea, DVD-RAM is definitelly dying a certain death, but i don't see -R DL expanding either. going with a burner with DVD-R DL capabilities would be the smarter thing to do to insure future support, but if that support will take years to implement (by which time he's bound to get an upgrade anyway), he's better off with something be can use now. i liked DVD-RAM, it promised big things, it's a shame it wasn't marketed better. plus, i'd go with LG just because of the brand and my experience. never used an Asus burner before. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 MustNotSleep said: yea, DVD-RAM is definitelly dying a certain death, but i don't see -R DL expanding either. going with a burner with DVD-R DL capabilities would be the smarter thing to do to insure future support, but if that support will take years to implement (by which time he's bound to get an upgrade anyway), he's better off with something be can use now. i liked DVD-RAM, it promised big things, it's a shame it wasn't marketed better.plus, i'd go with LG just because of the brand and my experience. never used an Asus burner before. 586328872[/snapback] You have a good point there. However, I don't see why the deployment of DVD-R DL media shoud take years...More like months. Perhaps you can change my mind on this issue, since there is something I don't fully grasp: what are the benefits of DVD-RAM over, say, DVD+RW? Is the media cheaper? Im ceartain its not more widely available, but does it have any technical benefits? It it does, I rest my case and concede the LG might be a better choice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 http://www.cdrinfo.com/ + Search = :) (There's been five or so of these threads in the last two days) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 (edited) MustNotSleep said: well yea, but -R DL is still an obscure and unsupported format and i doubt that will change. i'd much rather go with the dying DVD-RAM support. i don't know what chips Asus uses, but LG is known for making quality burners and the GSA-4164B (i'm thinking that's the one on display there) does well all-around. 586328778[/snapback] As far as I can see the LG supports DVD+R DL too :huh: btw, I think that's a LG GSA-4163BA ... and 'YES' I do speak yugoslavian :yes: Ajapi said: Would you call DVD-RAM a very supported medium? DVD-R DL will no doubt grow. The same cannot be said about DVD-RAM, which has been made obsolete by the dominance of DVD+-RWs. 586328798[/snapback] What is DVD-R DL anyway ? :huh: ----- EDIT: 1000st post :cool: Edited August 5, 2005 by Dark Ride Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0z Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 None of the above. NEC 3520 or Pioneer DVR-110. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ajapi said: The Asus is the only one out of those that burns DVD-R DL as well as DVD+R DL. And at a pretty decent speed, too (6x). That reason enough? Hehe. 586328753[/snapback] that asus drive is really a Pioneer DVR-109 from the list get the Asus but other wise go to BenQ, no excuses Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AionXn_ Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Hehe. I got a BenQ DW1640 and I love it :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586328986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Dark Ride said: As far as I can see the LG supports DVD+R DL too :huh: 586328923[/snapback] I never said it didn't. I said the Asus was the only one that supporter DVD-R DL. Dark Ride said: What is DVD-R DL anyway ? :huh:586328923[/snapback] Just a different format. There are DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL, just like there are DVD+Rs and DVD-Rs :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ajapi said: You have a good point there. However, I don't see why the deployment of DVD-R DL media shoud take years...More like months. Perhaps you can change my mind on this issue, since there is something I don't fully grasp: what are the benefits of DVD-RAM over, say, DVD+RW? Is the media cheaper? Im ceartain its not more widely available, but does it have any technical benefits? It it does, I rest my case and concede the LG might be a better choice. 586328887[/snapback] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAM from my understanding, RAM works much like a hard-drive. the data isn't written sequentially, so there's no need for closing sessions. it works just like a floppy or a removable drive, you put it in, write/delete instantly, and get it out. no need for external programs. they were a joy to work with for backing up data, as they had auto-CRC checking, so nothing was ever corrupt. only thing was the speed issue, but i was using a 5 year old Apple G4 so i couldn't tell you the exact model, but the 5X the LG GSA-4163B does is quite enough (make that somewhat less, since it loses speed checking for consistency). i'm really not sure why it lost interest, it really is/was a good format. as far as DVD-R DL goes, i don't see anything worth a mention that DVD+R doesn't do with much higher hardware support. DVD+R will always be my choice for buying equipment, so i'll never have the need for -R. if there's any format that should be removed is that +- issue. not only is it confusing, but it's only there because of some weird corporate pickle. why should the end-user be forced to choose different formats when they all do the same thing? :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 MustNotSleep said: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-RAMfrom my understanding, RAM works much like a hard-drive. the data isn't written sequentially, so there's no need for closing sessions. it works just like a floppy or a removable drive, you put it in, write/delete instantly, and get it out. no need for external programs. they were a joy to work with for backing up data, as they had auto-CRC checking, so nothing was ever corrupt. only thing was the speed issue, but i was using a 5 year old Apple G4 so i couldn't tell you the exact model, but the 5X the LG GSA-4163B does is quite enough (make that somewhat less, since it loses speed checking for consistency). i'm really not sure why it lost interest, it really is/was a good format. as far as DVD-R DL goes, i don't see anything worth a mention that DVD+R doesn't do with much higher hardware support. DVD+R will always be my choice for buying equipment, so i'll never have the need for -R. if there's any format that should be removed is that +- issue. not only is it confusing, but it's only there because of some weird corporate pickle. why should the end-user be forced to choose different formats when they all do the same thing? :unsure: 586329009[/snapback] Sounds great! I have a quick q: do all modern optical drives read DVD-RAMs? Or is it just for the LG ones? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nekrosoft13 Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 Ajapi said: Sounds great! I have a quick q: do all modern optical drives read DVD-RAMs? Or is it just for the LG ones? 586329022[/snapback] not all read dvd-ram, there are select few few lg drives, a09, 109 (asus the same drive) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustNotSleep Posted August 5, 2005 Share Posted August 5, 2005 nekrosoft13 said: not all read dvd-ram, there are select fewfew lg drives, a09, 109 (asus the same drive) 586329029[/snapback] Pioneer doesn't. AFAIK, LG is the only one still supporting DVD-RAM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Ride Posted August 5, 2005 Author Share Posted August 5, 2005 MustNotSleep said: i'm really not sure why it lost interest, it really is/was a good format. wikipedia said: Disadvantages of DVD-RAM * Type 2 discs do not always come in a case. * Most DVD recorders do not support DVD-RAM. * The medium is more expensive than DVD?RW. * DVD+RW can be written faster than DVD-RAM when writing large amounts of data. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/354228-dvd-burner-choices/#findComment-586329056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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