metalguy90 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 not much of a suspension seeing as the rest of the league sat out for the entire season as well!!! :s I think he should be suspended for this entire season. Then he'll know what it feels like to be on the sidelines. big deal that he lost $500K that season. If the NHL played last season, he would have lost $6.0+ millioh (or whatever his contract is for) being suspended for the year; then maybe he would realize what he has done. It could have been much worse and if it was, we might not even see bertuzzi in the league anymore. I am a maple leafs fan, and things like this have ruined the game of Hockey. I dont like guys like Domi, Belak, Tucker, Worrell; basically, hired goons that cant play the game. There are too many non-talented fighters in the game and that is what is taking away from the finesse!! I like a tough guy that can score. Like Shannahan or Roberts. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586366079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 You have to be kidding me. The guy had is neck broken and his career in jeopardy. Just because people sue your favorite team because of that doesn't make him a whining little baby. It makes you and everyone like you an ass for not recognizing how serious of an issue that was, believing Bertuzzi when he had a public apology, and every other nonsensical thing mentioned in this thread. I agree with the people saying his suspension should be as long as Moore is out. That's a just and fair punishment for breaking a guy's neck on purpose. Something that is apparently not a big deal with most of you. 586365986[/snapback] Even the Colorado Avalanche organization knows he is exagerating so he can sue. Why do you think they dumped him and even signed May to distance themselves from him? I'm don't just feel this way because I am a Canuck fan. I would feel the same if it was a player on any team. And as stated before, there is no proof that Todd broke his neck. It could just as easily have been all the players jumping on top. About his career being in jeapardy. It already was before all this. He wasn't a very good player and spent his time between the NHL and the minors. He is suing because he knows he had no career anyway and this way he can get millions out of Todd and the Canucks organization. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586366091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalguy90 Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I agree with Ji@nBing about Morris' career not being that stable.... he probably wouldnt last that long in the NHL..... he's not your top 50 type of player... if lucky... he gets stuck on the fourth line.... however, what Bertuzzi did was uncalled for.... and basically cowardly....... i think the suspension should go on through this year..... just my opinion Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586366270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 12, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 12, 2005 I thought there should have been as many as 20 games added to the suspension from this season. Dale Hunter got 21 games for a nasty cross-check on Pierre Turgeon that sidlined him with a separated shoulder for six weeks. Bertuzzi breaks some guy's neck, which is still not completely healed after more than a year, and gets only 20 games? Either Dale Hunter got too much or Bertuzzi got too little. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586366323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I thought there should have been as many as 20 games added to the suspension from this season.Dale Hunter got 21 games for a nasty cross-check on Pierre Turgeon that sidlined him with a separated shoulder for six weeks. Bertuzzi breaks some guy's neck, which is still not completely healed after more than a year, and gets only 20 games? Either Dale Hunter got too much or Bertuzzi got too little. 586366323[/snapback] Again, there is no conclusive evidence that Bertuzzi broke his neck. It could just have easily been from the Avalanche players jumping on top of them. Another thing I would like to add is that the Avalanche are a very classy organization. The fact that they have dumped Moore and want to have nothing further to do with him says a lot. I truly believe that if Moore's injuries were as bad as he would have us believe and that his lawsuits had any merit, he would have the full support of the Avalanche organization. They've dumped him and distanced themselves from him because they know he is faking it and this whole thing is BS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586366862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix XII Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 not much of a suspension seeing as the rest of the league sat out for the entire season as well!!! :sI think he should be suspended for this entire season. Then he'll know what it feels like to be on the sidelines. big deal that he lost $500K that season. If the NHL played last season, he would have lost $6.0+ millioh (or whatever his contract is for) being suspended for the year; then maybe he would realize what he has done. It could have been much worse and if it was, we might not even see bertuzzi in the league anymore. I am a maple leafs fan, and things like this have ruined the game of Hockey. I dont like guys like Domi, Belak, Tucker, Worrell; basically, hired goons that cant play the game. There are too many non-talented fighters in the game and that is what is taking away from the finesse!! I like a tough guy that can score. Like Shannahan or Roberts. :D 586366079[/snapback] Tucker and Domi have to be in the game for a reason man, this is hockey, not some ###### sport like basketball. Tucker has toughness and he has some hands too, I would love for him to come to Vancouver. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586367109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zxian Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 Are you people forgetting that Moore attacked Naslund first? It wasn't an unintentional hit that gave Naslund a concussion, and Moore didn't get any suspension or warning for that. I'm not saying that it was alright for Bertuzzi to hit Moore, but there are a lot of things that people seem to choose to forget. There are a lot of incidents in the NHL that go over/under punished. I do think that Moore is over-playing his injury to get attention and to get back at Bertuzzi. But then again, look back at the McSorley/Brashear incident. I think that the attack back then was far worse than what Bertuzzi did since it involved a weapon. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586367230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrix XII Posted August 12, 2005 Share Posted August 12, 2005 I've seen wayyyyyyyyyyyy worse things happen in hockey than what Bert did (I played AAA hockey for many years)... I mean, even that thing in the AHL when the guy absolutely tomahawked the other guy with his stick. I mean that was like 10 times worse than what bert did... I saw cheap shots like that go on every game in minor hockey lol.. It's nothing new. The ONLY reason why everyone is making such a big deal is because the Avs players dived on top of Bertuzzi driving Moore's head into the ice, therefore breaking his neck. It's not hard to notice that folks. If Moore had have gotten up 5 minutes later, I would bet ANYTHING that Bert would have gotten MAX 5 games. It's not based on the act, it's the injury. That's the annoying part of the whole thing. I also hate it when non-hockey players that don't know Jack **** about hockey come in and say, "oh he should be banned for life, he should have gotten the whole next season suspension!" That is BS.... play hockey and you'll know how tough it is, Moore got cheapshotted, that happens every goddamn game in hockey.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586367785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 Even the Colorado Avalanche organization knows he is exagerating so he can sue. Why do you think they dumped him and even signed May to distance themselves from him? I'm don't just feel this way because I am a Canuck fan. I would feel the same if it was a player on any team. And as stated before, there is no proof that Todd broke his neck. It could just as easily have been all the players jumping on top.About his career being in jeapardy. It already was before all this. He wasn't a very good player and spent his time between the NHL and the minors. He is suing because he knows he had no career anyway and this way he can get millions out of Todd and the Canucks organization. 586366091[/snapback] Or maybe -- just maybe -- they're doing what's best for the organization and actually [gasp!] trying to do well and bring their fans back. Moore isn't an amazing player and wouldn't help them as much as Brad May would -- and why would you want a merely decent player coming off an injury when you could have Brad May? Your logic is extremely flawed in this regard. As for there being "no proof" that Bertuzzi broke his neck -- it was on T.V. in millions of homes! Sure, he may not have been the one who did it (you're jumping to great lengths if you honestly think that's the case -- seems to me you just don't want to admit it and are trying to blame anyone but Bert for his own actions), but he had the intent to do so, and he tried to harm him. There is absolutely no place for his actions in this sport! Why give him less of a suspension than the player he hurt? It's not fair anyway you look at it. And to say he had no career is absolutely and utterly asinine -- it truly shows how biased and ill-informed you are. You should be ashamed for such insults. No, Moore may not have been the best player, but to say that his career was in jeopardy because he split time between the NHL and the minors is just stupid and you know it. Now he may never play again -- think about how much money he is losing if he can never play again, even if he makes the league minumum every year. He has to sue to pay for his medical bills and expenses! I'm sure you'd sue for medical bills and pain and suffering if someone snapped your neck, would you not? Don't treat this situation any differently. You can say you're not being biased all you want, but you are. I don't like either team -- would you say I'm biased on the matter? If so, why? And would you say the people who voiced their displeasure with Bertuzzi were biased? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586368554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badnewz Posted August 13, 2005 Share Posted August 13, 2005 the Canucks could have god playing for them and they would still lose so who cares if bert is back. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586368579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted August 13, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 13, 2005 Whether or not the players jumping on the pile broke his neck is really irrelevant. Bert's actions precipitated the broken neck. If the league was not desparate for revenue and if Bert was not sure an important draw then this would be been punished more severely. Bert got extremely lucky because of the timing of the lockout. So he couldn't play in Europe. Big whoop. It's like Rafael Palmero. You know he's going to get special treatment because he is considered "needed" by the league. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/355925-nhl-bertz-is-back/page/2/#findComment-586370830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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