OSUKid7 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 We don't need another IM!586416463[/snapback] It's (rumored to be) based on Jabber, so it's not "another" IM.What would their OS be based on? 586416463[/snapback] Um, other than some very wild rumors, who said Google was going to offer an OS? No one except maybe a few people at Google know what the OS would be based on. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code.Red Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 It might be just my computer that does this but when i type http://whatever.google.com it says it doesn't exist, but if i type http://talk.google.com it redirects me to googles own 404 page saying google.com/talk/ was no found on this server :blink: 586416778[/snapback] :o Interesting, you may be on to something there... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416910 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoop Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 :o Interesting, you may be on to something there... 586416910[/snapback] We'll find out in a few days :D I tried chat.google im.google and all sorts but that was the only one which worked. Whatever it is i'm really looking forward to it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log: [23:35:46] *** Creating connection "tomservo@talk.google.com/Trillian"[23:35:47] *** Server supports TLS encryption... [23:35:47] *** Negotiating XMPP SSL connection... [23:35:48] *** Connection established using EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (TLSv1/SSLv3) [23:35:56] *** ERROR: iq error 405 [23:35:57] *** Connect: Account failure. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416971 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoop Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log: 586416971[/snapback] I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scowl Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 A Google OS would probably be pretty damn cool. Right out of the box I bet it would be Microsofts biggest competitor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means :unsure: 586416978[/snapback] It means there's a Jabber server responding on talk.google.com on port 5222. http://tomservo.cc/blogs/english/archive/2005/08/22/35.aspx :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586416999 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayMan2K Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means :unsure: 586416978[/snapback] That a secure server is running at talk.google.com. Perhaps this could be there IM server waiting to be made public. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 It IS an IM server. XMPP is the IETF acronym for Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol, alternatively known as Jabber. What the Trillian status window reports is a XMPP session initiation with SSL/TLS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ev0| Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 put it on the neowin front page and it can be another neowin scoop !!!! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoop Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Wow! :D I half discovered this :p hahah! I name my discovery: Pleh! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenutensils Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 wow lol thats a slip-n-a-half! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k311 Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 it would be great for MS to have some real competition, google could do that. i twould encourage microsoft to make a better product(s). say what you want apple fans, but microsoft doesnt worry a whole lot about macs right now, they can prettimuch do whatever they feel. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 In the case of Google, they're using an open XML based protocol. If talk.google.com is related to their supposed shenanigans on Wednesday, you'll be able to use any Jabber capable client, not just Google IM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amnesia Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 people might say, Google is doing too much or is out of their league or "we dont want another MS" but why not? It's great, more competition hopefully means better prices and better tech. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambooo Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Is it me or has everyone missed Google Desktop 2 which was released today? Edit: no worries.. seen it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted August 22, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 22, 2005 About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log: 586416971[/snapback] Very good find. The problem is going to be getting enough people to want to use Google IM. I'm very happy using AIM for my friends and MSN for Neowin staff. How are they going to convince everyone to change over? What's going to be their selling point? That's what interests me. As it was stated, you need to have people on the network for it to entice other people. That's one of the main reasons YIM is so far behind the other clients in terms of general useage. No one knows anyone on it and therefore sees no need in using it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glowstick Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 (edited) They might offer transports to those services. But to have them look attractive, the Google IM client has to expose an user-friendly transport configuration interface. Also, I've just remembered that the XMPP RFCs allow for your own SASL authentification mechanisms. So it might be possible, that even if Google uses Jabber for their potential IM services, that they might lock you into Google IM via proprietary SASL, if you want to use their service. --edit: As a sidenote, their XMPP server doesn't respond to the checkLogin IQ as supposed. Instead of replying with 403-Forbidden or telling the client whether it wants a plaintext password or a digest, it just tells straight away that it doesn't support plaintext. Whatever that means, probably their way keeping the service locked down until Wednesday. Edited August 22, 2005 by Tom Servo Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshalus Veteran Posted August 22, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 22, 2005 https://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=30063&category=main Thanks guys. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586417315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpgeek Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Google IM :D Oh yeaaa. Probly won't use it much but can't wait to try it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586418376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 actually if they can offer compatability with aim, yahoo, and msn AND allow for display pictures and file transfers to work across all of the protocols it might be worth it to switch. thats all i really need anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586418553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Maybe talk.google.com is for internal corporate IM, not actually a public IM service. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586418771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted August 23, 2005 Veteran Share Posted August 23, 2005 unless google IM can connect to the other networks (like MSN, AIM etc) people arnt going to switch.. (because that'll mean all thier contacts [and all thier contacts contacts etc] will have to too) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586419736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 I would definately love to try it and I am sure it will be great! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586420362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 That a secure server is running at talk.google.com. Perhaps this could be there IM server waiting to be made public. 586417003[/snapback] public? we're talking about google here. it will be made "beta". :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/362336-google-instant-messenger-100-laptop/page/2/#findComment-586420378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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