Doli Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I'm sorry last time i checked thugs are people that rob and steal, not play basketball for a living. good Job (Y) keep playing youll get it someday. 586695362[/snapback] Bingo, people in here dont know what a thug is. Thugs in the NBA? maybe the team owners robbing people with high prices but that the business. Players as thugs, they wont last long in the NBA if they even try to act like a thug. The NBA is not above the law. Dont try to post "well so-ans-so got off and he did....", it sucks when you see people get off easy but it happens everywhere not just the NBA. You hate it because its not you, but you be happy to get off easy when it is you in the hot seat. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586695590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I do agree with the dresscode, what i didn't agree with is them being called thugs, i mean cmon now, isn't negative labeling just a bit played out now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586695622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted October 19, 2005 Veteran Share Posted October 19, 2005 interesting read when i was googling for nba and criminals. http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2005/07/nba...le-with_20.html "thug" may be a bit of an overstatement, but the facts are there. the nba has a bad image. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586695904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ficman Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I think this is a good thing for them, NBA has an image problem to begin with... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586695919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin08 Posted October 19, 2005 Share Posted October 19, 2005 I personally think it's unfair to label all those basketball players as "thugs", and that's not only because "thugs" is a term that's used when you refer to criminals. I agree that NBA's image isn't at its best right now, but in no way should they be labelled as "thugs". Media tend to focus on the negatives, because negativity sells, and the general population (except true basketball fans and those who actually have a sense of what the media is about) pretty much depend on the media for their only info. regarding the NBA, they're nowhere near as educated about it as basketball fans (I am a big fan of the sport). Therefore when they read the papers or visit news-sites and see titles like... say... "NBA player ....... is currently under investigation for .........", that's all they'll think about, hence the worsened image. But do keep in mind that there's countless events like charities and all that stuff, where it's the best to keep your name anonymous, a lot of these events go unreported, simply because it shouldn't take the meaning of the charity away. Although a number of them do get reported, but unless it's a major thing like say... donating for the relief effort of Hurricane Katrina... it's not gonna be in the headlines. So all I'm trying to say is that, although there're certain players who might've done something wrong, they don't represent the whole league. There are good people in the league and they're not in the minority either. Put yourself into their position, say: two of your co-workers at the company that you work for were caught for some criminal act, and couple days later, you're being labelled as a "thug". How would you feel? As a fan of the sport of basketball and NBA, I feel insulted when I hear comments like those that stereotype the players as "thugs". And regarding the dress-code, I think it's a good thing, for the most part, simply because a lot of people tend to only look at the surface, which will definitely help the image-issue of the league. But I hope the leauge makes some changes so that the players don't have to wear suits while they're on the plane taking a nap... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586696087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emo Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 the chains thing will be a problem sinc ethey like to represent their "ice" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586697316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluepride35 Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Its their job.? Jobs have dress codes.? When not on the job, they are free to dress as they wish.? Wearing a collared shirt, slacks, and dress shoes is not a lot to ask.? Also, coach's wear suits and sport coats on the sideline (not sure if this is a requirement), so why not players who are not playing?? I don't see why players that are out don't wear their uniforms like baseball players. 586695357[/snapback] Coaches do have a dress code. I think it's at least a sweater or jacket and a collared shirt. I think it was Georgre Karl who wore a Nuggets jersey during a game and got fined. I'm just curious will owners be held to the same standard? Will Mark Cuban have to give up his t-shirt and jeans when he's sitting behind his team's be;)h? ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586697466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted October 20, 2005 Author Share Posted October 20, 2005 People need to quit playing the damn race card most of the people that say, after getting mad say things like the N word and other racist things :whistle: . I personally think it's unfair to label all those basketball players as "thugs", and that's not only because "thugs" is a term that's used when you refer to criminals. I agree that NBA's image isn't at its best right now, but in no way should they be labelled as "thugs". you make a good point. thugs refer to criminals not the way people dress. the bad people will stay bad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 most of the people that say, after getting mad say things like the N word and other racist things :whistle: . 586698138[/snapback] I don't think I understand what you mean? Are you saying that because I said "people need to stop playing the race card" that I'm a racist??? I'll let you respond before I say anymore... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KzR Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think the new dress code rule is good. It significantly improves the already-good reputation of the NBA as a professional league. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane-UK Veteran Posted October 20, 2005 Veteran Share Posted October 20, 2005 All the pro football (soccer) players over here dress in suits before and after the games.. you see them on TV leave the dressing rooms and they're always immaculately dressed in decent gear - and that is regardless of the type of game, be it international or domestic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolslacker Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think it's fair. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemania Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 All the pro football (soccer) players over here dress in suits before and after the games.. you see them on TV leave the dressing rooms and they're always immaculately dressed in decent gear - and that is regardless of the type of game, be it international or domestic. 586698678[/snapback] This isn't just before or after game, this include travel and all team functions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayMan2K Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Its fine. Being an NBA player is a job. They get paid MILLIONS. Having a dress code is appropriate and resonable. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rootwiler Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 bad! they take away the basketball "look" .... and they take away rights for the basketball players to dress and represent themselves as they like... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 WAAAAA Mommy these mean people won't let me dress how I want!! WAAAAAA How is this national/international news??? A bunch of spoiled rich whiners complaining about a dress code?? Big freakin deal. Let's move on people...nothing to see here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamatfu Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 I think this is a smart move on Stern's part, as the NBA could stand to expand its fanbase. For too long have NBA players been allowed to dress slovenly, and I imagine it's turned off some fans. It's a job and they should either adhere to the dress code without making a big fuss about it or go play streetball. Some replies to the above comments: @rap4life: "Thug" refers not only to brutish criminals but also to the subculture that idolizes them through dress, music, and lifestyle. You can't have "Thug 4 Life" tattooed on your chest and turn around and ask NOT to be described as "thuggish." No one is saying that NBA players, as a group, are criminals. To do so would be silly [though many have been proven to be criminals]. Their dress is simply being described, fairly, as thuggish. As for the charges of racism: Idiots. How is an across-the-board dress code racists? If the "no chains" rule impacts black players more than anyone else, that doesn't make it racist...that's like saying speed limits unfairly target those who speed. It's a rule that the cry-baby types like Stephen Jackson need to just accept. Welcome to the real working world. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamatfu Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 bad! they take away the basketball "look" .... and they take away rights for the basketball players to dress and represent themselves as they like... 586698928[/snapback] What "rights" would those be? Can you point us to where NBA players have the "right" to "represent themselves?" Because I can sure point you to their contracts, where their employers DO have the right to set reasonable expectations in regards to dress & presentation of THEIR company. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreAming in DigITal Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 bad! they take away the basketball "look" .... and they take away rights for the basketball players to dress and represent themselves as they like... 586698928[/snapback] I'm not sure if your old enough to work full time...but if you do...then do you have the "right" to wear anything you want? Nope. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586698970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cterry511 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 To many thougts on this one to even get out. But im againts the code its seems to be a little excesive. its like what if you were told that on causual you cant wear you jeans cuz there to urban. this is corporate america trying to put its limits on somthing that doenst mater. AI has a tat on his neck are they going to make him cover it wit h makeup. LOL BUt the bottom line is the is a sport come on millions or not your siting next to sweaty men wheres the need for a suit. i think dress code is unnessary at a sporting event. just like dress code when your answering phones all day.(inside joke right joe :woot: ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586701689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroteknikz Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 (edited) The sad thing is it is mostly black people. I'm not trying to be racist. Black people are influenced when they see another black person doing something cool. Just like the asians down here. One person wears FCUK and listens to trance the other asian will do it. Monkey see monkey do. I used to be like that. Dammit I still am!! I don't really care about the dress code but the thing is, if you play professional you have to look like it. And about you guys saying thug. Wearing baggy clothes and chains and stuff is being thug. The last time I saw the thug used was in Spider-Man the game(first one). Last time I recalled, they were wearing ski-hats leather jackets and tight jeans. Does that dressing in baggy clothes sound thug to you? And just to tell you guys. I am black. Edited October 21, 2005 by Mixed Nuts Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586701864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LispyGlitter2 Posted October 21, 2005 Share Posted October 21, 2005 I agree with the dress code. They are looking for a more business type stance. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586702025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted October 21, 2005 Author Share Posted October 21, 2005 I don't think I understand what you mean? Are you saying that because I said "people need to stop playing the race card" that I'm a racist??? I'll let you respond before I say anymore... im not saying your a racist but, it seems to me when someone talks about people use their race, it seems kinda racist. my mom is racist and she talks like that about black people, and talks sh*t about white people. @rap4life: "Thug" refers not only to brutish criminals but also to the subculture that idolizes them through dress, music, and lifestyle. You can't have "Thug 4 Life" tattooed on your chest and turn around and ask NOT to be described as "thuggish." No one is saying that NBA players, as a group, are criminals. To do so would be silly [though many have been proven to be criminals]. Their dress is simply being described, fairly, as thuggish im just say thugs copy rap/hip hop in the 60's black people did dress baggie or so call thuggish. and with the NBA players i was saying this my make the NBA look clean, but will it affect the way some NBA players live, or will it stop kids from being in gangs or being thugs? The sad thing is it is mostly black people. I'm not trying to be racist. Black people are influenced when they see another black person doing something cool. Just like the asians down here. One person wears FCUK and listens to trance the other asian will do it. Monkey see monkey do. I used to be like that. Dammit I still am!! I don't really care about the dress code but the thing is, if you play professional you have to look like it. And about you guys saying thug. Wearing baggy clothes and chains and stuff is being thug. The last time I saw the thug used was in Spider-Man the game(first one). Last time I recalled, they were wearing ski-hats leather jackets and tight jeans. Does that dressing in baggy clothes sound thug to you? And just to tell you guys. I am black.its not only black people but white , hispanic, and everyone young. On Sports radio, the only people that called in and disagree with what the NBA was doing, was white people or black people in their early 20s but when ever black people in their 30's called they said its ok. waring baggy clothes are in right now, in 20 years it will be out. at one time wearing a suit was thugish. ________________________________________________ @ cterry511 i agree with what the NBA is doing, many black NBA players wear suits on the beanch. now and then shaq will wear a suits. i dont like the chain thing only. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586703056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mystical112 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 i think its fair they should look professional... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586716855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
704 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/386960-dress-code-for-nba-players-announced/page/2/#findComment-586718166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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