DKasler Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 (edited) Does neowin host the actual advertisements? If not how can you assure me that my computer won't be effect by some cross site scripting or other vulnerabilities? That's pretty much the only reason I block ads. Its a security issue, and no one other than those hosting the ads can promise me they are all safe. To be honest even if they did I probably wouldn't believe them since they are trying to sell ads. PS. Don't take my word for it... http://newsletters.trendmicro.com/servlet/...0okLHmeHgKlJHiL From that Newsletter: Drive-by DownloadsSurprisingly, users do not necessarily have to click on an ad to trigger a Web threat. Some banner ads begin working their black magic as soon as the viewer lands on a Web page containing the infected ad. In this case, viewers may be quickly redirected from the original site to a different site, which initiates a malicious adware download through browser vulnerabilities—a process known as drive-by-download. Edited September 21, 2008 by DKasler Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589828482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperAFK Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Does neowin host the actual advertisements? If not how can you assure me that my computer won't be effect by some cross site scripting or other vulnerabilities? That's pretty much the only reason I block ads. Its a security issue, and no one other than those hosting the ads can promise me they are all safe. To be honest even if they did I probably wouldn't believe them since they are trying to sell ads. PS. Don't take my word for it... http://newsletters.trendmicro.com/servlet/...0okLHmeHgKlJHiL From that Newsletter: Yeah I did actually have an ad on digg.com hijack my clipboard a couple weeks ago so it kept making me paste a link to a virus .exe. I went to paste something into my address bar and without even looking what I pasted hit enter and was like ****. Noscript saved my ass though. I do whitelist neowin's though, they are mostly google ads which are pretty safe. Neowin has been pretty good at making sure their ads are safe though and they react very quickly when (if) anything happens. the only thing I've seen happen is seen a couple pr0n ads sneak in which are quickly removed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589829640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PermaSt0ne Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 could someone help me? i have whitelisted neowin.net for adblockplus but that didn't work, so i disabled ABP and they still don't show up. noscript is set to allow everything on neowin as well. any idea's? edit: i just realized that i use the Hosts file from mvps.org to stop malware and such, could that be why? hopefully not because if it is, i don't want to get rid of my hosts file, taking away a level of security, just to show a couple of ads :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589968254 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Antonius Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dont mind ads on neowin, if it helps the site, im happy. I am slitly annoyed with the one on the main page. Smack bang in the middle of the news. There is no need ad it just distracts me from reading the news and what not. I wouldn't mind if it was re-located, i just think it is bad having it in the middle of content. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589971518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dont block the ads no need to, Cept when im at work, the only ads i wish to never see are the flash video ads. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589971788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kami- Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 I dont block the ads no need to, Cept when im at work, the only ads i wish to never see are the flash video ads. FireFox + Flashblock Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589971848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anonymous_user Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 @PermaSt0ne - you can try an extension like WOT instead of the hosts file. Protection from malicious sites without blocking ads. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-589972072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Is neowin run as a business or as a charity? Also you guys that run it, is this your only source of income or do you have another part time job etc? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590034314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dc'1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Is neowin run as a business or as a charity? Also you guys that run it, is this your only source of income or do you have another part time job etc? I'd guess they do work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590034456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wst50 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Just realised that I've had ZoneAlarm Adblock on for the last year. It didn't remove any adverts from here. In fact, I get quite a lot of ads on any site... oh well, not circumventing anything :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590036298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cuban Posted December 10, 2008 Share Posted December 10, 2008 neowin is one of the only sites my adblock is off. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590252140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fix-this! Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 FireFox + adblock fixed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590254732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannes Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 Is neowin run as a business or as a charity? Also you guys that run it, is this your only source of income or do you have another part time job etc? I believe they all have a job beside Neowin. Neowin though is a company, they recently became Neowin Ltd. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590255986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuong Nguyen Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 i think we should have more options for member when someone who don't want to have ads when they log in by their account by paying a little money. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590345806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeratlarge Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I don't understand why people are saying they have Neowin on the white list of their ad blockers. OK so you allow the ads to be shown. But, and I could be so wrong here, I was under the impression that the ad servers only pay out when you actually click on an advert. If I am wrong and the number of ads served has a bearing on remuneration for Neowin then I urge everyone to let the ads through. But, and it's a big but, on the flip side of this argument Neowin needs to be accountable for the ads they serve. They insist on the non-use of adblockers, and that's fine, but they then have a responsibility to their users not to infect with viruses or trojans, or as a result of ads, deluge the user with spam. It's a two way street. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590346190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted January 1, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted January 1, 2009 We get paid for the ads being shown as well.. Ad companies don't serve trojans or viruses ;) Although it's true that some ads try to get you to install "malware" a seasoned internet user should be able to see past that and to be honest our ads are of a better quality lately due to the site theme update and better ad placement. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590346196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I don't understand why people are saying they have Neowin on the white list of their ad blockers. OK so you allow the ads to be shown. But, and I could be so wrong here, I was under the impression that the ad servers only pay out when you actually click on an advert. Google ads typically pay-per-click, most other banner ads pay-per-view. I think intellitxt ads pay per rollover. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590346206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuckeratlarge Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Thanks for the update Steven. I hope people allow the ads on Neowin. Happy New Year, by the way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590346210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thealexweb Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 After impulse bought stake in this website i have less sympathy for the admins / other owners etc. I also don't think censoring ads blocking topics is very good either. Bit like when Hitler came to power, he censored everything he saw as a threat to him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590347250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malskazz Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Aint that normal thealexweb? I mean if i owed a site, or if i was an Hitler, i would also get rid of everything i saw as a threat. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590424972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorned1 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Impulse, you mean Stardock, it doesn't really matter anyway. With the crazy amount of traffic Neowin got recently I think Neobond has enough to retire ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590425000 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted January 15, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted January 15, 2009 After impulse bought stake in this website i have less sympathy for the admins / other owners etc. I also don't think censoring ads blocking topics is very good either. Bit like when Hitler came to power, he censored everything he saw as a threat to him. Did you just compare Hitler and Neowin :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590425002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popcorned1 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 lylesback2 : It was the princeple he was getting at. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590425008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven P. Administrators Posted January 15, 2009 Author Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2009 After impulse bought stake in this website i have less sympathy for the admins / other owners etc. I also don't think censoring ads blocking topics is very good either. Bit like when Hitler came to power, he censored everything he saw as a threat to him. Wow what an ill-informed response :s Stardock has been a silent co-owner since the beginning of 2005, it's now 2009 and aside from a small amount of Stardock related news (which almost always has to do with their software) we have proven many times over that the site hasn't changed as a result of the partnership. Well, it has changed somewhat because we are now in a position where we have financial backing and we actually OWN our own servers rather than rent them. It's like I've said many times before, there's no such thing as a free lunch, if you want the service we have been giving you then it costs money, and we recoup that through advertising, without it we will simply go under (within a short space of time). WHAT, i ask, is wrong with this arrangement!? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590426984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redmak Administrators Posted January 15, 2009 Administrators Share Posted January 15, 2009 Oh my, 32 pages already and we still have to explain why we need the money Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/389495-adblockers/page/19/#findComment-590426990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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