SidVicious Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Sources at the company told me this week that Microsoft will soon delay the release of Windows Vista Beta 2 from December 7, 2005 to sometime in January or February 2006. However, because the Vista development schedule is extremely time constrained, the company will try and make up lost time by eliminating one of the planned release candidate (RC) milestones that were planned for later in the process. A Microsoft representative told me that the company remains on track for shipping Windows Vista in the second half of 2006. "We are on schedule and committed to shipping on time and ensuring a high-quality product," I was told. "Microsoft sets internal targets for the development team around milestones, but these are not commitments to specific dates. We do not comment on these internal milestones and we have not announced a specific timeframe for our next major Windows Vista milestone. " "That said, customers have told us repeatedly they prefer more frequent code drops through our Community Technology Preview (CTP) program [which] provides a great avenue for real time feedback and testing from our customers--feedback we formerly received only through the beta process. You should expect Microsoft to continue their focus to deliver CTPs in the coming months given how successful this program has been." Previously, sources had revealed to me that Microsoft would at least delay the release of Windows Vista Beta 2 until late December. This more recent delay suggests that the company is having a difficult time meeting its internal shipping criteria for Beta 2, which is considered a major milestone release and will be made widely available to testers and the public. It's not known at this time whether the delay will affect related product releases such as Internet Explorer (IE) 7.0 Beta 2 and Windows Media Player 11 Beta 1, both of which were also originally set for a December 7 public release. Source: http://www.windowsitpro.com/windowspaulthu...rott_48408.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWahbinator Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Well there better be a november CTP... I hate when MS delays things to possibly screw up even more. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586793863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
P!P Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I don't really think anyone thought Beta 2 would be released in less then a month. It's pretty better it got delayed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586793872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0z Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I admit that from the quality of the last build I thought it would be hard for microsoft to hit beta 2 in december, lots of work still to do. Lots of hardware still not working correctly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586793915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LispyGlitter2 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I say if they need the extra time to ship a proper Beta 2, then be my guest. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586793931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
windows95isg8 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I say if they need the extra time to ship a proper Beta 2, then be my guest. 586793931[/snapback] Me to :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586793944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRage Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 i prefer them to delay months than to rush to release an unfinished product or rip out parts of the OS that were supposed to be in because of no time :\ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commodore Max Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think Microsoft is doing this because things are going too fast ... I don't think they want a Windows ME disaster all over again ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think Microsoft is doing this because things are going too fast ... I don't think they want a Windows ME disaster all over again ... 586794430[/snapback] i was just thinking that :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted November 11, 2005 Global Moderator Share Posted November 11, 2005 I think Microsoft is doing this because things are going too fast ... I don't think they want a Windows ME disaster all over again ... 586794430[/snapback] oh god.. nobody wants another ME disaster.. stocks will plumit.. and microsoft will need to pull a magic trick out there asses if they ever do that again. ME is probably the worst thing to happen to PC's LOL Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0z Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 oh god.. nobody wants another ME disaster.. stocks will plumit.. and microsoft will need to pull a magic trick out there asses if they ever do that again. ME is probably the worst thing to happen to PC's LOL 586794700[/snapback] :ninja: I beta tested that. It was the worst thing I have ever been involved in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BajiRav Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I am generally optimistic about Microsoft's operations. But if this is true, somebody needs a major asswhooping ! :ninja: Normally I would've said its better to get delayed than ship with bugs, but they'd a plenty of time even after the reset! :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The problem recently has been the addition of new features. Post Beta1 they started adding all kinda of stuff. This brought on more instability. The November CTP which I hear we are still going to get should be much better than the 5231 builds we currently have. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris123NT Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The problem recently has been the addition of new features. Post Beta1 they started adding all kinda of stuff. This brought on more instability. The November CTP which I hear we are still going to get should be much better than the 5231 builds we currently have. 586794848[/snapback] Lets hope so :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1369 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 :ninja: I beta tested that. It was the worst thing I have ever been involved in. 586794710[/snapback] What exactly is wrong with Windows ME, may I ask? I know I stand out like a sore thumb when saying this but Windows ME truly wasn't that bad. It had its' problems, but, hey, every Windows had its' own issues. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586794975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kr0z Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 What exactly is wrong with Windows ME, may I ask? I know I stand out like a sore thumb when saying this but Windows ME truly wasn't that bad. It had its' problems, but, hey, every Windows had its' own issues. 586794975[/snapback] For me stability and performance were the biggest problems. In gratuity I received the full version, which I appreciated but stayed with Windows 98SE. That was a very good operating system for its time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586795109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
King RasBert Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 What exactly is wrong with Windows ME, may I ask? I know I stand out like a sore thumb when saying this but Windows ME truly wasn't that bad. It had its' problems, but, hey, every Windows had its' own issues. 586794975[/snapback] Well, it has more issues than other MS OS's in my opinion It was an memory-hog if there ever was one. Sure, you could set it proberly up if you was an it-expert, but for home users it sucks big time. By far the WORST OS from Microsoft. Not to mention its vulnerability to hackers, if it wasn't set perfect up, i never got it to work on computer when i upgraded some of the hardware (SoundBlaster Live!, not some strange borderline equipment) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586795625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felinix_Devotion Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I say if they need the extra time to ship a proper Beta 2, then be my guest. 586793931[/snapback] I agree i think it is good Microsoft are thinking more of a working OS rather then a profit one by releasing it far to soon. Nice to see they are learning from there past mistakes. ( like Windows ME rushed out for year 2000, poorly made and more BSOD's then ever thought possible " Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/396329-microsoft-hits-windows-vista-beta-2-delays/#findComment-586795943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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