[release] Aero Glass 1.0

[NienorGT]

Pff... All thoses rippers >:(

[AMDMEFX-55]

HAHAHHAHAHA

[hkore]

Its still good work though

[Starchild]

Just use MikeB's Arrow. It is better in my opinion.

http://wincustomize.org/ViewSkin.aspx?SkinID=5347&LibID=1

[Ironman273]

MikeB's Arrow is good but it looked odd with my taskbar doubleheight. Kol's updated VistaXP with Beta2 graphics has the same start button and works better in doubleheight.

http://www.wincustomize.com/ViewSkin.aspx?...ID=5212&LibID=1

[ModMan24]

it wasnt a rip. I reused his toolbar buttons and window borders. That was all the rest was from vista.

[NienorGT]

ya ya...

Even if you used a little part you havn't asked the permision so it's a RIP...

[ModMan24]

I asked permission twice..

he never answered me the first time so i assumed it would be ok when i saw another skin on wincustomize that used his borders. I asked him a second time when i relased it and he finaly replyied late saturday telling me no.

[ModMan24]

I asked permission twice..

he never answered me the first time so i assumed it would be ok when i saw another skin on wincustomize that used his borders. I asked him a second time when i relased it and he finaly replyied late saturday telling me no.

[Wing]

This bit about permission must be the most anally retentive thing that I have encountered. There are no sales going on here, there is no commodification of visual styles, what the hell is there to worry about? Nothing, except perhaps just to prove a point, to use force for the sake of using force. When I write, I am loathe to copywrite it, because I believe the free exchange of information can only be a good thing.

To believe it is an issue of "respect" is merely to be insecure, this person is someone who put work into his style, what is the respect for him saying that his theme is worthless just because he used two elements of another?

Edited November 22, 2005 by Wing

[ModMan24]

I agree fully. When a write software and stuff if someone has an idea to make it better they can have a copy of the source code. i dont mind.. all i want is a little recognition. I gave him that but clearly that isnt enough. I dont enjoy being accused by the people here.

~Ben

[Axel]

He said no? What an ass - credit where credit's due of course, that can be written in the documentation - but in the end it's the users who lose out. The more variations the better I say, more choice!

[ModMan24]

Um.. i think i said something close to that. but yeah.. i agree. :)

[Bant Veteran]

i would have said no too. make your own graphics.

[((Ecko))]

I'm sure everyone who makes visual styles with their illegaly downloaded Photoshop CS asks microsoft for permission to modify Luna.msstyle and they say yes. :laugh: And why do you need permission to replicate an idea originally created by MS and not yourself? Maybe it is slightly more understandable if your creating your own unique visual style from scratch, but to be mad because someone used "your" Vista bitmap for "their" Vista msstyle is childish. People are takin this sh*t too seriously.

[ModMan24]

Im planning on over thanksgiving weekend trying to redo the boreders and such to my own liking if i can.. if i cant then oh well..

i had a bunch of friends that had windowblinds 5 that i go to school with that wanted me to make a complation of tweaked glass themes. I use it cause i like it.. though that would be a rip cause its hybrids of MS, Crystal XP, MikeB, and KoL. But im not releasing that thats for my use and the 4 of my friends that asked me to make it.

but i agree no one here asks MS if they can rip off crap out of vista or xp. like the mod that allows for the use of the vista 5231 games in xp no one asked MS, and no one cares.. they use it and dont question it. Same goes for all of the pure rips of the vista aero theme. So i dont see why if someone uses something that someone else made if they give them credit. Oh well. Like i said i might work on a theme if i get the time.

~Ben

[Aaron Veteran]

Im planning on over thanksgiving weekend trying to redo the boreders and such to my own liking if i can.. if i cant then oh well..

i had a bunch of friends that had windowblinds 5 that i go to school with that wanted me to make a complation of tweaked glass themes.  I use it cause i like it.. though that would be a rip cause its hybrids of MS, Crystal XP, MikeB, and KoL. But im not releasing that thats for my use and the 4 of my friends that asked me to make it.

but i agree no one here asks MS if they can rip off crap out of vista or xp. like the mod that allows for the use of the vista 5231 games in xp no one asked MS, and no one cares.. they use it and dont question it. Same goes for all of the pure rips of the vista aero theme. So i dont see why if someone uses something that someone else made if they give them credit. Oh well. Like i said i might work on a theme if i get the time.

~Ben

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This is an interesting concept I have been trying to grasp for quite some time. If I place a canvas next to the Mona Lisa and copy, from hand, every little nuance of Da Vinci's work, is that now MY art that nobody is allowed to copy or alter?

[ModMan24]

hehe i agree with you.. if someone makes something based off vista or OSX then i dont see why other people cant use parts of it.. as long as credit is given.

[KoL Veteran]

Im planning on over thanksgiving weekend trying to redo the boreders and such to my own liking if i can.. if i cant then oh well..

i had a bunch of friends that had windowblinds 5 that i go to school with that wanted me to make a complation of tweaked glass themes.  I use it cause i like it.. though that would be a rip cause its hybrids of MS, Crystal XP, MikeB, and KoL. But im not releasing that thats for my use and the 4 of my friends that asked me to make it.

but i agree no one here asks MS if they can rip off crap out of vista or xp. like the mod that allows for the use of the vista 5231 games in xp no one asked MS, and no one cares.. they use it and dont question it. Same goes for all of the pure rips of the vista aero theme. So i dont see why if someone uses something that someone else made if they give them credit. Oh well. Like i said i might work on a theme if i get the time.

~Ben

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All the graphics of my windows frames are created by me. I didnt use any graphics from microsoft to create them. You can create something by yourself and that way nobody can say you rip them. If you need help you can see the Glass PSD that I released. You can see how I made my windows. http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/23576187/

[+BeLGaRaTh Subscriber¹]

hehe i agree with you.. if someone makes something based off vista or OSX then i dont see why other people cant use parts of it.. as long as credit is given.

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Exactly ... whilst I am using Kol's Vista WB theme atm, different versions/interpretations (read as you will, its all the same at the end of the day as far as I'm concerned) are always welcome with open arms.

As you mention credit where credit's due, so if a part is borrowed from here, and modified there, as long as the original person is credited I can't see what the fuss is about ...

But anyway, i digress, im upset manchester united managed a draw, lets hope benfica do the trick :)

[KoL Veteran]

Exactly ... whilst I am using Kol's Vista WB theme atm, different versions/interpretations (read as you will, its all the same at the end of the day as far as I'm concerned) are always welcome with open arms.

As you mention credit where credit's due, so if a part is borrowed from here, and modified there, as long as the original person is credited I can't see what the fuss is about ...

But anyway, i digress, im upset manchester united managed a draw, lets hope benfica do the trick :)

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If the author created it from scratch you need permission. Let say I create an Aqua button, then someone use my button without any permission in a theme just becasue is an Aqua button and OSX have aqua buttons. That's wrong, the concept is the same but the images are different.

Is always good to ask first, you wont get in any problem and most of the time author give permissions.

[QuarterSwede]

All the graphics of my windows frames are created by me. I didnt use any graphics from microsoft to create them. You can create something by yourself and that way nobody can say you rip them.[/url]

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Actually, you are still ripping them. Do any of you even know what the copyright law says?

If you are going to copy someone's work you must alter the work enough so that its different enough from the original. Same applies to visual styles, although there aren't enough people doing it for any one important to care (sorry to be blunt, but it's true).

[KoL Veteran]

Actually, you are still ripping them.  Do any of you even know what the copyright law says?

If you are going to copy someone's work you must alter the work enough so that its different enough from the original.  Same applies to visual styles, although there aren't enough people doing it for any one important to care (sorry to be blunt, but it's true).

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You cant rip a concept. Concept, ideas, colors are not protected by copyright. You said that Im ripping their windows borders because I created them transprent???? No. I dont even create the same thing. The Glass effect is more than just translucent borders.

If I use the same titlebar and borders with other titlebars buttons completely different from the vista onesn obody can say I rip someone else.

Yes I know I ripped Microsoft, I used some of their graphics in my theme but a lot are created by me too.

EDIT: btw Im talking just about the window frames. The rtitlebar buttons are from Vista :D

[((Ecko))]

If the author created it from scratch you need permission. Let say I create an Aqua button, then someone use my button without any permission in a theme just becasue is an Aqua button and OSX have aqua buttons. That's wrong, the concept is the same but the images are different.

Is always good to ask first, you wont get in any problem and most of the time author give permissions.

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Copyright laws cover the concept as well as the actual works, so you are just as guilty as he is. No offense though, I do enjoy your themes and think your definately one of the best to ever do it.

Your not getting any profit out of this but your pretty famous in these and other messageboards because of the themes you do, but i dunno if that is deserved because most of your themes are replicas.......

It's like me painting the Mona Lisa exactly as it is and handing it out for free. Im pretty sure if I did that it would not be allowed or I couldnt say that it's my mona lisa like you say this is KoL's VistaXP. I know for sure if Microsoft, Apple or whoever wanted to litigate s**t like this you would lose big in court. But keep doin what you do, imo the WB vistaXP 2 theme is the best vista theme ive seen so far.......

[((Ecko))]

sorry double post