Espada04 Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Well as I mentioned in my previous post, its of massive concern to me. I mean as if I want a monitor that I have to uprade my system to the max, just to use properly. I mean whats next, having to upgrade just to use new mice and keyboard? I mean I was all primed up for 30" of pixel goodness, but realistically 24" would be perfect, I just wish they would re-produce the 24" with a DHCP connection and id be buying one in no time. so most people would have to get a new video card if they want to use this 30" monitor at its native resolution.. which after spending (est. of 2500+) they'll have to spend another 500-600 for a video card that supports it.. and i'm pretty sure people who afford these monitors would be mostly gamers so they wouldnt go for a X1600 and would go for something like the X1800XT.. (or the 7800GTX, but they use single DVI link) lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586936139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Yeah they do. Video cards have DVI-I ports, which have both analog and digital signals on them. DVI monitors dont use the analog pins and only use the digital signal. The DVI to VGA adapters only use the analog pins on the DVI end and connect them to a VGA connector. I think you are confused. DVI-I - 1 cable 1 connection DVI-D - 1 cable 2 connections Only some graphics cards have DVI-D (the D is for Dual) this monitor will not work over a DVI-I connection only a DVI-D connection. It's so big that it requires 2 channels to deliver that high resolution. The 2005FPW and 2405FPW work over DVI-I and DVI-D (without utilising the D part as DVI-D is backwards compatible with DVI-I cables and devices) In this picture you can see the different DVI standards http://www.cable4pc.com/jpg/all.jpg Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586936577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigitalN. Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 any idiot that will believe that no card out can support this monitor, should go for a walk. here, I will list a few: X1800 series, has 2 DVI Dual link ports, so 2 of these monitors at once X1600 series, has 2 DVI Dual link ports X1300 series, has 1 DVI Dual link port 7800 series, has 1 DVI Dual link port AFAIK 6800 GT, GS, Ultra, UE, has 1 DVI Dual link port X800 XT, X850XT have 1 DVI Dual link port thats all I know for now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586937227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got3n Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 but the specs of the 7800gtx are like 2056 x some weird number, doesnt say anything about 2560x1600 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586937261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 any idiot that will believe that no card out can support this monitor, should go for a walk. here, I will list a few: duno about the cards themselves but your right, apples 30inch display has been available for a while now and PC users have been making use of it. Just need the right graphics card. As far as I know there are a few manufacturers that have implemented support for dual DVI for a while now, although I couldnt say who and on what chipset they had it running. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586937305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 18, 2005 Share Posted December 18, 2005 Asus sold a 6800 (Vanilla) with 128MB RAM and a Dual DVI port. Other manufacturers did not do this. It's not a default spec for any of these range of cards its basically up to the Board manufacturer to if they want to put Dual DVI on the cards or not so don't just buy anything expecting it to support Dual DVI because 1 manufacturer selling the same model had it. If you want this monitor you really have to do some research on a card before purchase. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586937580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextGen_Gamer Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 any idiot that will believe that no card out can support this monitor, should go for a walk. here, I will list a few: X1800 series, has 2 DVI Dual link ports, so 2 of these monitors at once X1600 series, has 2 DVI Dual link ports X1300 series, has 1 DVI Dual link port 7800 series, has 1 DVI Dual link port AFAIK 6800 GT, GS, Ultra, UE, has 1 DVI Dual link port X800 XT, X850XT have 1 DVI Dual link port thats all I know for now. You should really do some research before posting such false information. I checked out the websites of all of the manufacturers' of GeForce 7800 and GeForce 6800 series cards. I found out that NO ONE has made a GeForce product with a dual-link DVI port. ALL of the GeForce 7800 series cards are equipped with dual DVI-I connectors. ASUS also does not list a GeForce 6800 vanilla card with a DVI-D connector, only with a single DVI-I connector. So, as I said originally, there has never been a GeForce card with a DVI-D connector. NVIDIA did make a special GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL for Apple that came with dual DVI-D connectors, but that card cannot be used in a PC system. As for ATI, I also checked them out. ATI does say on its website that Radeon X850 and Radeon X800 products can support a single DVI-D port, but after checking all of the websites of the add-in board partners (along with Built By ATI cards), I once again found out that there has never been a Radeon X850 or Radeon X800 card equipped with a dual-link DVI port. So, what you are left with is the Radeon X1800 series that all have two DVI-D connectors, the Radeon X1600 series that all have at least one DVI-D connector (although it is possible to have two of them), and potentially the Radeon X1300 series, which although they can have a DVI-D connector, I am not aware of any manufacturer doing this yet. The NVIDIA Quadro FX 4500 has two DVI-D connectors, and most of the rest of the Quadro FX lineup has at least one DVI-D connector. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586939933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgleason007 Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Well as I mentioned in my previous post, its of massive concern to me. I mean as if I want a monitor that I have to uprade my system to the max, just to use properly. I mean whats next, having to upgrade just to use new mice and keyboard? I mean I was all primed up for 30" of pixel goodness, but realistically 24" would be perfect, I just wish they would re-produce the 24" with a DHCP connection and id be buying one in no time. What does DHCP have to do with a monitor? It's HDCP :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586940020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeboy Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 well, even though I dont see a practical use for a 30" screen, I am concerned about the video card issue, I mena, not even the 7800gtx 512mb will be able to handle such a resolution lightly! what si the world coming to? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586940136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 ASUS also does not list a GeForce 6800 vanilla card with a DVI-D connector, only with a single DVI-I connector. So, as I said originally, there has never been a GeForce card with a DVI-D connector. I should have been more clear. Asus made for a short period a 6800 Vanilla 128MB AGP with DVI-D it was not a "special feature" it was just a manufacturing error/bonus only some of the 6800 Vanilla's had this I know this because some user found a card in hong kong with the connector purchased one and then hooked it up-to a 30-inch apple cinema display (he showed pictures playing NFS etc and other users then confirmed his reports when finding the cards in retail outlets) The cards were never official and can no longer be bought retail ebay only. And so there has been DVI-D Geforce cards, on the other hand who in the right mind would go ebaying for a vanilla 6800 haha :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586942284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicker_man Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 Do you think they will reproduce the 24" with DHCP support? Cos im looking at buying a new monitor, and whilst 30" would be good, fact is im not going to spend $1000 on video cards and upgrades, just to use a monitor, so im thinking the 24" would be perfect, but this whole DHCP thing is throwing me. You meant HDCP, right? 'Cuz I don't think monitors are able to handle Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol nowadays :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586942323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
llbbl Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 It's not how big your monitor is, its what you do with it! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586942352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cube Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 I hope my 2005fpw doesn't get made a fool though :(. mine too :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586943230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextGen_Gamer Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I should have been more clear. Asus made for a short period a 6800 Vanilla 128MB AGP with DVI-D it was not a "special feature" it was just a manufacturing error/bonus only some of the 6800 Vanilla's had this I know this because some user found a card in hong kong with the connector purchased one and then hooked it up-to a 30-inch apple cinema display (he showed pictures playing NFS etc and other users then confirmed his reports when finding the cards in retail outlets) The cards were never official and can no longer be bought retail ebay only. And so there has been DVI-D Geforce cards, on the other hand who in the right mind would go ebaying for a vanilla 6800 haha :laugh: HaHaHa, for sure. Well, sorry I doubted you; you seem to know what you're talking about. I thought about one good thing sure to come out of this: with all the people who are bound to complain that their new $500+ GeForce 7800 GTX cards can't power a new state-of-the-art Dell monitor, I'm almost positive that NVIDIA will rectify this "mistake" by equipping their upcoming GeForce 7900 series cards with dual DVI-D connectors. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586944894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 HaHaHa, for sure. Well, sorry I doubted you; you seem to know what you're talking about. I thought about one good thing sure to come out of this: with all the people who are bound to complain that their new $500+ GeForce 7800 GTX cards can't power a new state-of-the-art Dell monitor, I'm almost positive that NVIDIA will rectify this "mistake" by equipping their upcoming GeForce 7900 series cards with dual DVI-D connectors. yer haha, I'm not looking forward to upgrading I'm still on AGP with a X850XT PE so I have to do quite an overhaul to my system to get DVI-D. I guess I could buy one of these and run it off my Powerbook since that has a DVI-D connector but sort of a waste really. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586944905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I hope these 30" won't have the pink hue Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586944934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonComet Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Was that a problem with the 30"er? I only ever heard about it on the 23"er. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586945523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detroit Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I mean in general, I hope these are perfect ^^ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586945538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 You meant HDCP, right? 'Cuz I don't think monitors are able to handle Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol nowadays :rofl: well I got all the letters right, just in the wrong order :) but yes HDCP is what I meant :) I hope these 30" won't have the pink hue Yeah that nefarious pinkish hue that crops up on some LCDs, mainly ive only seen it in LCDTVs being used as monitors, but it wasnt a problem with the dell 24"er's was it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586948894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grdh20 Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/seg...and/3007wfp?c=u jan 5th Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586952471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenetik Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 That link doesnt work.. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586952542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 my god.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586952545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
luftwaffe Posted December 21, 2005 Author Share Posted December 21, 2005 (edited) Edit: Sorry grdh20, didn't see your post Pushed back to Jan 05. Some specs have been changed from the original release (I believe they're advertising 11ms gray to gray and 14ms black to white response). http://www1.us.dell.com/content/topics/seg...and/3007wfp?c=u Edited December 21, 2005 by luftwaffe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586952831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felipey Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Newly released spec sheet: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/syst...FP/EN/index.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586956879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcdShdw Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 so yea im still confused what videocards can handle this kinda resolution Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/403932-dell-3007wfp/page/6/#findComment-586956900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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