Marsden Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 BCS is just plain stupid. Let the teams with the best overall records play in the top bowl games. Drop "margin of victory", "strength of schedule", and "coaches crying on the phone". 10-1 tops 9-2 which tops 8-3 which tops 7-4. End the nonsense of a 9-2 or 8-3 team sneaking in under a 10-1 because it is a better match up of coaches... If there are 3-way ties then let them flip coins... now all things are equal. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586893824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 Football playoffs could be done WASHINGTON (AP) - A playoff system could be used in major college football and the so-called "plus-one" model for determining a national champion should be reconsidered, the head of the Bowl Championship Series told Congress on Wednesday. When House Subcommittee on Commerce Trade and Consumer Protection Chairman Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., pointed out that lower divisions have playoffs for football, BCS coordinator Kevin Weiberg said: "It certainly, congressman, is possible to have a playoff at the Division I-A level, as well. We have chosen not to go down that path." Between jokes about needing tickets for bowl games and remarks about more important matters they could be addressing, lawmakers on the subcommittee - which examined steroids in professional sports earlier this year - made clear they are not interested in pursuing legislation. But they did want to know why Division I-A football is the only college sport without a playoff system. "Why can't it do it? Why can't it do it?" asked Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas. "We're not going to introduce a playoff bill after this hearing. But I hope this hearing causes discussion. I would like to see the NCAA and the major conferences and the BCS come together on their own to develop a playoff system." There are 28 bowls, and four are in the BCS: the Rose, Orange, Fiesta and Sugar. Those take turns hosting a championship game between the Nos. 1 and 2 teams in the BCS standings, based on two human polls and computer ratings. The "plus-one" concept, where the fifth game of the BCS format would be a championship game with two teams advancing from the first four bowl games, was considered in 2004. Weiberg, the commissioner of the Big 12 and one of six witnesses Wednesday, testified that the "'plus-one' model is one that deserves review. It is not one, as of yet, that has had full opportunity for review." He said he's open to changing the current setup but noted that school presidents would have to approve playing extra postseason games - something they have shown no inclination to do. Weiberg is in his final season as BCS coordinator. Southeastern Conference commissioner Mike Slive starts a two-year tenure in 2006. Big Ten commissioner Jim Delany, Rose Bowl management committee chairman William Johnstone and other witnesses offered several arguments against playoffs: They would abandon tradition, diminish the importance of the regular season, lower the economic impact of some bowls, and create academic conflicts. "The bowls are not perfect, and the Bowl Championship Series is not perfect," Football Bowl Association chairman and Alamo Bowl CEO Derrick Fox said. "But a playoff system is dangerous." Barton questioned the concern about academics, citing a recent report that said 41 percent of this year's bowl-bound college football teams fall below the NCAA's new academic benchmark. "Let's don't use (academics) as an excuse not to have a playoff system - and then ignore it," Barton said. He also wondered aloud whether money is the biggest reason there isn't a playoff. "Doesn't it really boil down to that the major bowls ... don't want a playoff system because you think it's going to impinge on the money that the big bowls make?" Barton said. Delany responded that "an NFL-style football playoff would provide three to four times as many dollars to the Big Ten as the current system does. There is no doubt in my mind that we are leaving hundreds of millions of dollars on the table." The BCS was created in 1998 by the six most powerful conferences. Since then, the system has been tweaked to make it easier for teams from smaller conferences to qualify for the top games http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5147730 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586894065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted December 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2005 Very interesting article there (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586894585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2005 i for one have always been a fan of the computer polls IF they are setup correctly and fairly. however, for the most part, people usually rip the computer polls, and give more respect to the human polls, which i've never agreed with. you can see from those facts that the human polls are 100% biased and completely worthless. this is why USC is NOT going for their 3rd straight title, only their second. grr, that whole adding an extra game stuff has ****ed me off. already what, twice in the past 7 years or so they've allowed an extra game to be played. why don't they just take one of those games away? put the regular season back to 10 or 11 games. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586894765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted December 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 8, 2005 i for one have always been a fan of the computer polls IF they are setup correctly and fairly. however, for the most part, people usually rip the computer polls, and give more respect to the human polls, which i've never agreed with. you can see from those facts that the human polls are 100% biased and completely worthless. this is why USC is NOT going for their 3rd straight title, only their second. grr, that whole adding an extra game stuff has ****ed me off. already what, twice in the past 7 years or so they've allowed an extra game to be played. why don't they just take one of those games away? put the regular season back to 10 or 11 games. Human polls are horrible. There are always a few teams that get the benefit of the doubt and are rated high even when they ahve barely produced. Look at Notre Dame this year. They only beat two teams that ended the season with a winning record (Michagan and Navy), but they are BCS 5th? Gimme a break! I always liked strength of schedule as a good benchmark, why do some of you not like it? I think just who you win or lose to is a very important thing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586895516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 10, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2005 speaking of strength of schedule, i think D1 schools should not be allowed to play D1-AA schools. the SEC and big 12 are notorious for this. the playing field needs to be kept somewhat level. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586902799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted December 11, 2005 Veteran Share Posted December 11, 2005 They will never be denied the ability to play D1-AA schools because the schools can schedule out of conference games at their will. Plus, it makes a team look bad when they play a D1-AA school rather than a D1-A school. But I do concur, the SEC played a variety of those teams this season. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/404239-congressman-bcs-deeply-flawed/page/2/#findComment-586905609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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