Ozpa Posted January 24, 2006 Share Posted January 24, 2006 No full brrr. I just hope February has a Full release. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587109841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+theblazingangel MVC Posted January 25, 2006 Author MVC Share Posted January 25, 2006 No full brrr. I just hope February has a Full release. why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587110129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verteron Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases. Why do you use AutoPatcher? I use it to save time. Installing several files will defeat the purpose. Now, if those smaller update files could update the Full AutoPatcher install file, so I could continue to carry a single file from computer to computer, I wouldn't mind it a bit. Actually I'd definately encourage that. And what about making it executable from CD or flash drive without needing to actually install it? Is that possible? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, really. I appreciate that you are doning this at all, every little bit helps. I am just hoping to add constructive criticism. I realize that bandwidth is an issue, but several files are as well. I deal with too many files already. Drivers, software, diag tools, app tools, password files, malware tools, etc... and I am trying to cut the clutter an simplify the process to increase productivity and save time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587111662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+theblazingangel MVC Posted January 25, 2006 Author MVC Share Posted January 25, 2006 why? im not having a go, i just really don't understand what peoples objections are to update releases. Why do you use AutoPatcher? I use it to save time. Installing several files will defeat the purpose. Now, if those smaller update files could update the Full AutoPatcher install file, so I could continue to carry a single file from computer to computer, I wouldn't mind it a bit. Actually I'd definately encourage that. And what about making it executable from CD or flash drive without needing to actually install it? Is that possible? Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, really. I appreciate that you are doning this at all, every little bit helps. I am just hoping to add constructive criticism. I realize that bandwidth is an issue, but several files are as well. I deal with too many files already. Drivers, software, diag tools, app tools, password files, malware tools, etc... and I am trying to cut the clutter an simplify the process to increase productivity and save time. 1) you want to save time, so why is downloading 200MB every month faster than downloading 5MB? 2) i understand that if you keep the installers then its a little inconvienient having more than one, but its pretty much impossible to create an update release that would update the actual previous package without delving deep into hex editing the executable which is definately not worth the trouble. 3) autopatcher is a portable application; after installing (extracting) from the downloaded package, you can copy everything in c:\program files\autopatcher to a CD, DVD, flash drive, or any other suitable gadget you like. when it comes to an update release, if on a flash drive, simply directly install on top of the release, or if on CD/DVD, copy the CD/DVD to a hard drive, install the update ontop, and create a new CD/DVD. 4) if you dont want to transport it as a folder, you could pack it all up into a zip file or an executable zip file so you can choose where to extract to. 5) you could also use the packing files available in the translators pack thread, and you could repack your new updated copy of autopatcher yourself using the free NSIS installer. this would be exactly as if we had made a full release! the update release modifies the previous release, adding, removing, and replacing files, and then you package it up to exactly what would have been our full release if we had chosen to release it like that ourselves. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587112558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 U install december, install jan update and then copy it to a cd or make a self extracting arcive. and..... VOILA u have a APJAN06FULL !!!! :woot: simple as that P.S. Guys thanks for clearing that up to me February update here we come - fire away Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587112938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
verteron Posted January 25, 2006 Share Posted January 25, 2006 Great!! I didn't know it was portable. :D Since it has an install process I thought that it registered itself with Windows. I figured I was doing good just reading the entire monthly threads, Jan, Dec, Nov, etc. I didn't really think to look for others. I save time still with a 200MB download, since I do have broadband, and even though it takes time, it is just click and go. Come back later and get it. I am working on several computers at once anyway. If it was 5MB, I'd likely just sit there an wait for it any way. So one could argue that I waste more time with the smaller download. So here' a question: if AutoPatcher is truly portable, then why install it? Why not just unpack it in place? If I can just zip the c:\Progr~1\Autopatcher directory to my flash drive, then can I just copy the directory instead and then use it on another computer without "installing" it? Just plug in my flash drive, navigate to its' AP directory and run it from there? I am trying it now. :shiftyninja: Here's a thought, why not create your own SP3? Take Dec05 and add SP2 to it, make it one big file, then just continue regular full autopatchers from then on. Then maybe you could make it so one could just add the SP2.exe to it's directory manually, to at least keep that download size down. :blink: Or what about a script that just downloads all the updates automatically from MS, then that will keep major bandwidth issues down. So the end user downloads a small file, when run, it downloads all the required files from MS and integrates them automatically into one directory and can then install them to patch windows. The script would need to change for every new release I am sure, but could that at least work for the SP3 thing? Or am I just... :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587113520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted January 26, 2006 Share Posted January 26, 2006 I'll bet some of the "senior" members will reply you but here's my two cents.. I save time still with a 200MB download, since I do have broadband, and even though it takes time, it is just click and go. Come back later and get it. I am working on several computers at once anyway. If it was 5MB, I'd likely just sit there an wait for it any way. So one could argue that I waste more time with the smaller download. You are preaching to the wrong choir :D Compromises are sometimes a less of two evils, adapt and move on. So here' a question: if AutoPatcher is truly portable, then why install it? Why not just unpack it in place? If I can just zip the c:\Progr~1\Autopatcher directory to my flash drive, then can I just copy the directory instead and then use it on another computer without "installing" it? Just plug in my flash drive, navigate to its' AP directory and run it from there? I am trying it now. shiftyninja.gif when u download your download could be corrupt, hence the packaging, you might have noticed the verifying feature (+ compressing feature). Once u have downloaded it play with it as you wish. If some modules is corrupt, and it doesn't show up, imagine what can happen to your computer... Here's a thought, why not create your own SP3? Take Dec05 and add SP2 to it, make it one big file, then just continue regular full autopatchers from then on. Then maybe you could make it so one could just add the SP2.exe to it's directory manually, to at least keep that download size down. blink.gif Installing SP2 after the Windows installation is not recommended, but it can be done, and there are some people that have allready done it (e.g. WindowsXP SP3 gold edition, black edition,.. and if you have enough knowledge about windows unattended installation process, you could do all the work automaticlly. Or what about a script that just downloads all the updates automatically from MS, then that will keep major bandwidth issues down. So the end user downloads a small file, when run, it downloads all the required files from MS and integrates them automatically into one directory and can then install them to patch windows. The script would need to change for every new release I am sure, but could that at least work for the SP3 thing? Or am I just... wacko.gif Yes U R .... but I admire people that have ...... ideas and cohones to make them reality Anyway it will not be a easy task, good luck. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587116742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzykicks2002 Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 I just found this program and I think it is a fantastic idea!! I was writing a Batch file ever week or so with all the updates and it worked alright but here is mu problem. Im the computer guy for lik 800 people plus and we are not allowed to use ghost so fine thats cool i can deal with that. but when it comes to the updates we ahve to have them install by a certain time or else the computer will run a shut down script. that is why i love this program you guys made I can do them akll at once!! only things is that you guys are missions some windows updates there are not in the december version full or in the jan edition either they are KB893086 KB892647 KB903235 KB896688 These are the only updates that it is missing. there are a littler older updates as well. these updates are around the july 05 to november 05 time frame. is there is anyway that you guys could implament these into your program that woul;d be great!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587121511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_guy Posted January 27, 2006 Share Posted January 27, 2006 893086 is superseded by 900725. 903235 and 896688 are replaced by 905915. 892647 I can't seem to find. the_guy Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587121757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanschke Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 how can i slipstream all the stuff from the autopatcher to my sp2 win xp cd ? :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587128973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 U can slipstream Microsoft stuff so it's properly patched up, regarding other, like java... unattended installation could do. for splipstreaming u can use autostreamer or Nlite... That's as far as my knowledge goes... Senior geezers help this young lad :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587129027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanschke Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 is there a manual for autpatcher and autostreamer working together? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587129079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted January 29, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted January 29, 2006 AutoStreamer cannot slipstream hotfixes into the XP install disc (Yet). This is planned for the next version. You can, however, setup AutoPatcher as an unattended install: http://unattended.msfn.org/unattended.xp/view/web/7/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587129522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanschke Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 thx for the link :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587130050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted January 30, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted January 30, 2006 you're welcome Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587130493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 But he can slipstream hotfixes & updates with nlite , right? :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587132048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calidude Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 My host is offline because I was going through 2-3GB of bandwidth a day, it started out fine but I pulled the file when I saw that in one day I went through 2.6GB of bandwidth with just the 5.7MB or so update file. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587140236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 My host is offline because I was going through 2-3GB of bandwidth a day, it started out fine but I pulled the file when I saw that in one day I went through 2.6GB of bandwidth with just the 5.7MB or so update file. really well as I was saying aliens :alien: are leeching your bandwith 'cause only baout 30 people voted on using it P.S. put a get ip script on your server to see if the same people are leechin it, or some sort of script that prevents leechin... :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587141511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted February 1, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 1, 2006 Dude, It's hardly going to be one guy downloading it thousands of times... just because nobody wants to vote in your poll. 7,952 downloads on the torrents alone for APXPDecFull. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587141610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelico_Payne Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Agreed, but in calidudes place I would want to make sure... :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587142023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexi02 Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 UzziSoft.com Mirror for English Jan06 ENU Update: http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window..._ENU_Update.exe UzziSoft.com Mirror for Portuguese (Portugal) Jan06 ENU Update: http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window...uese_Update.exe UzziSoft.com Mirror for Portuguese (Brazil) Jan06 ENU Update: http://www.uzzisoft.com/autopatcher/Window...azil_Update.exe :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587144867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Razgriz Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 Silly question, but could I use Autopatcher to update a copy of XP Pro that DOES NOT have SP2 on it? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587145007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted February 2, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 2, 2006 There's about 0 use in not installing SP2, but if you inist, read the FAQ: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=410121 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587145828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cairo Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 (edited) im in hot water, after i update my autopatcher xp from 2005 december to 2006 january version, when my windows xp go to desktop and running my startup program, after few second, it comes out blue screen , is physical memory problem, did i make a mistake to update it ? i didn't remove the version 2005 and i directly update to 2006 jan, did i ? what should i do ? i try go to safe mode to remove the autopatcher and download the 2005 dec autopatcher back, same thing, its doesn't recover. any suggestion or solution for me ? i will kindly appreaciate if somebody can help me . oh ya, im using windows xp home edition Edited February 3, 2006 by cairo Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587148514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+theblazingangel MVC Posted February 3, 2006 Author MVC Share Posted February 3, 2006 @cairo, you did the right thing installing the jan06 update release ontop of the previous release. its only prev full/lite releases you should remove first. i dont believe your bsod has anything to do with ap. i guess your system just wasn't stable enough to have the patches installed, or prehaps it was something else altogether. Get the basic desciption from near the top of the bsod, and the details like the error code from near the bottom. Once you have that info, post a new message for help in one of these neowin forum sections. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/419470-autopatcher-xp-january-2006/page/4/#findComment-587148599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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