vertigosity Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 I think that would be a bad choice. I don't think the minimalists, who seem to use your pack the most, would like that big blue box around all their animations. I personally don't think it works... Agreed. I sorta do minimalism, but if I suspect that if I actually said so, I'd be quickly corrected. But yeah, I thought it looked decent in PSP9 and in a virtual machine acid-test, but after setting 'em up as one-frame static animations without the annoying moving stuff on my actual machine, it does sorta feel wrong. Still pretty, but wrong... like making out with your hot sister, or some such silliness. Back to the thinking board on that! I'm getting sloppy - if I was being really Tango about it, I'd mimic KDE, Gnome, or even OSX and not have an animation there at all. Now that's minimalism :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethere Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Very nice work indeed. I'm sure I speak for everyone that's used this. Thank you for taking the time to do it. Can't wait to see what's next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Anybody who's watching this thread and has an opinion on what the shell32 animations ought to look like, this is your poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArChAn9eL Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Would you happen to know why some of my icons aren't replaced properly and some arent replaced at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acedriver Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 have you tried rebuilding the icon cache? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArChAn9eL Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 have you tried rebuilding the icon cache? yeah multiple times even with a restart. i even restarted it once and all the icons were restored to their defaults :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 23, 2006 Author Share Posted March 23, 2006 (edited) Owwie... It sounds like you've got system file protection kicking in and mucking about. Got a Windows CD mounted/inserted, or an i386 folder on the hard drive? I've seen that on a few HPs, and that would throw a wrench in the script (it really is pretty simple, like a Neanderthal with a club). If so, check HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup in the registry to make sure it's not pointing at it. If you're still having trouble, when I update it with AVIs sometime next week, I'll get around to modifying the script to produce some usuable debug info. As to the "piped tower" icon showing up for "My Computer" (I'm guessing), did you set it to get the computer icon from shell32.dll instead of explorer.dll? The one that shows up near the beginning of shell32.dll is actually used for SMB hosts in a workgroup, for which the tower-with-a-pipe is the appropriate icon for. If you haven't... uh... that's weird! Edited March 23, 2006 by vertigosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted March 23, 2006 Veteran Share Posted March 23, 2006 alright, now I always switch from Gnome and tango shell pack! *sigh* hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArChAn9eL Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Owwie... It sounds like you've got system file protection kicking in and mucking about. Got a Windows CD mounted/inserted, or an i386 folder on the hard drive? I've seen that on a few HPs, and that would throw a wrench in the script (it really is pretty simple, like a Neanderthal with a club). If so, check HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup in the registry to make sure it's not pointing at it. If you're still having trouble, when I update it with AVIs sometime next week, I'll get around to modifying the script to produce some usuable debug info. As to the "piped tower" icon showing up for "My Computer" (I'm guessing), did you set it to get the computer icon from shell32.dll instead of explorer.dll? The one that shows up near the beginning of shell32.dll is actually used for SMB hosts in a workgroup, for which the tower-with-a-pipe is the appropriate icon for. If you haven't... uh... that's weird! Thanks for your help, but I don't seem to have a Windows CD mounted, and I did a search that failed to come up with a i386 folder. As for the registry, how do I check that exactly? I also don't even know how to point where my My Computer gets its icon from (shell32.dll or explorer.dll). I guess I'll just wait for your next release, thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauseum Posted March 23, 2006 Share Posted March 23, 2006 Owwie... It sounds like you've got system file protection kicking in and mucking about. Got a Windows CD mounted/inserted, or an i386 folder on the hard drive? I've seen that on a few HPs, and that would throw a wrench in the script (it really is pretty simple, like a Neanderthal with a club). If so, check HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Setup in the registry to make sure it's not pointing at it. If you're still having trouble, when I update it with AVIs sometime next week, I'll get around to modifying the script to produce some usuable debug info. As to the "piped tower" icon showing up for "My Computer" (I'm guessing), did you set it to get the computer icon from shell32.dll instead of explorer.dll? The one that shows up near the beginning of shell32.dll is actually used for SMB hosts in a workgroup, for which the tower-with-a-pipe is the appropriate icon for. If you haven't... uh... that's weird! Cant wait to see the updated shell. I'm using the shell along with a a tango IP theme atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illicit Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Excellent work, thanks for these! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgsbox Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I like it! You are great!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Thanks for your help, but I don't seem to have a Windows CD mounted, and I did a search that failed to come up with a i386 folder. As for the registry, how do I check that exactly? I also don't even know how to point where my My Computer gets its icon from (shell32.dll or explorer.dll). I guess I'll just wait for your next release, thanks again! There's a display properties panel, Desktop tab > Customize Desktop button, that lets you set the icons for My Computer/Documents/Network Places, and the two states for the Recycle Bin. To check the registry key for a pointer to a local Windows installation source, you'll need to use the regedit (Start > Run > regedit[enter]) program - but don't worry, as long as you don't change anything, it's usually pretty safe. Usually :shiftyninja: . Once you've got it running, it's pretty much like any other Explorer-ish program. "HKLM" is a common abbreviation of "hkey_local_machine," because that's long, hard to say, and hard to type. There will be two keys (registry equivalents of files) named SourcePath and ServicePackSourcePath, that provide the location for the Windows installation source; if you set the key to be equal to another location (or make it blank), or move the installation files themselves somewhere else, all should be well. Of course, it's just a hunch that's the problem and might not actually be it, but it's a strong hunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 29, 2006 Author Share Posted March 29, 2006 (edited) Updated: Some minor swathing and tweaks to the thumbnail view icon, but the real stars of this release are comctl32.dll and, at last, shell32 AVIs! Only on DeviantArt right now, I seem to have accidentally gone over my monthly bandwidth limit for darkt.net. Couldn't have done it without you guys :laugh: Right now, the default AVIs have their background color set to Windows Classic, sorry about that, I copied it to my notebook to apply it myself, then got to school and thought "Alright, that works... what's stopping me from releasing?," couldn't think of anything, and went ahead and uploaded it to DA. But... it actually doesn't look bad at all in Clearlooks, and doesn't look too bad in Element. I guess when I get home, I'll negate my brainfart and re-upload it with the proper Clearlooks background set :pinch: I also haven't gotten to playing with the scripts any, sorry archan9gel. Rather than playing with the batch scripts much more, I think I might look into seeing if I can "borrow" the Flyakite/XPize installer (it works pretty well, I think), or writing my own (I've actually got most of the right ideas pseudocoded out in my head, but it'd be written in VB6). Yeah, there's the Bricopack installer, but I've only had half a semester of French in middle school, and that was YEARS ago. Edited March 29, 2006 by vertigosity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArChAn9eL Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Updated: Some minor swathing and tweaks to the thumbnail view icon, but the real stars of this release are comctl32.dll and, at last, shell32 AVIs! Only on DeviantArt right now, I seem to have accidentally gone over my monthly bandwidth limit for darkt.net. Couldn't have done it without you guys :laugh: Right now, the default AVIs have their background color set to Windows Classic, sorry about that, I copied it to my notebook to apply it myself, then got to school and thought "Alright, that works... what's stopping me from releasing?," couldn't think of anything, and went ahead and uploaded it to DA. But... it actually doesn't look bad at all in Clearlooks, and doesn't look too bad in Element. I guess when I get home, I'll negate my brainfart and re-upload it with the proper Clearlooks background set :pinch: I also haven't gotten to playing with the scripts any, sorry archan9gel. Rather than playing with the batch scripts much more, I think I might look into seeing if I can "borrow" the Flyakite/XPize installer (it works pretty well, I think), or writing my own (I've actually got most of the right ideas pseudocoded out in my head, but it'd be written in VB6). Yeah, there's the Bricopack installer, but I've only had half a semester of French in middle school, and that was YEARS ago. YOU, sir, FAWKING rawk! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whizbt77 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 u know what, ill tell u a secret. if u go to march desktops and look through all the posts, ull notice that ur shell pack dominates to at least 5% of a >1000 post thread. which beats all the other shell packs by 4.9%. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbol Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Updated: Some minor swathing and tweaks to the thumbnail view icon, but the real stars of this release are comctl32.dll and, at last, shell32 AVIs! Only on DeviantArt right now, I seem to have accidentally gone over my monthly bandwidth limit for darkt.net. Couldn't have done it without you guys :laugh: Right now, the default AVIs have their background color set to Windows Classic, sorry about that, I copied it to my notebook to apply it myself, then got to school and thought "Alright, that works... what's stopping me from releasing?," couldn't think of anything, and went ahead and uploaded it to DA. But... it actually doesn't look bad at all in Clearlooks, and doesn't look too bad in Element. I guess when I get home, I'll negate my brainfart and re-upload it with the proper Clearlooks background set :pinch: I also haven't gotten to playing with the scripts any, sorry archan9gel. Rather than playing with the batch scripts much more, I think I might look into seeing if I can "borrow" the Flyakite/XPize installer (it works pretty well, I think), or writing my own (I've actually got most of the right ideas pseudocoded out in my head, but it'd be written in VB6). Yeah, there's the Bricopack installer, but I've only had half a semester of French in middle school, and that was YEARS ago. Many thanks for update. However, in my case AVIs are not replaced :-( I tried both in normal and safe mode, but stil in vain. Hope you can help me somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb815 Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 At last, AVIs! W00t! I've been using this patch for a couple of days and absolutely love it, great work man. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 YOU, sir, FAWKING rawk! :D So, everything's shiny on your end? Sweet! u know what, ill tell u a secret. if u go to march desktops and look through all the posts, ull notice that ur shell pack dominates to at least 5% of a >1000 post thread. which beats all the other shell packs by 4.9%. :D Really? I woulda guessed more than just .1% would be using Vista and OSX shells! Still, awesome :D Many thanks for update. However, in my case AVIs are not replaced :-( I tried both in normal and safe mode, but stil in vain. Hope you can help me somehow. Just... AVIs? Everything else worked fine, somehow? Or were you applying it over a previously Tangofied set of files? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erbol Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 So, everything's shiny on your end? Sweet! Really? I woulda guessed more than just .1% would be using Vista and OSX shells! Still, awesome :D Just... AVIs? Everything else worked fine, somehow? Or were you applying it over a previously Tangofied set of files? I applied it over previous Tango set. Previous release was just fine. Then I applied updated one, but not change with AVIs. I also tried "clean" install after restore, but still can not get AVIs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vertigosity Posted March 30, 2006 Author Share Posted March 30, 2006 I applied it over previous Tango set. Previous release was just fine. Then I applied updated one, but not change with AVIs. I also tried "clean" install after restore, but still can not get AVIs.You sure you're actually using the latest release, and that you didn't have a old cached page pointing to an old cached copy of the file? AFAIK/AFAICT, Reshack won't produce any output if the AVI files are missing, and if the files are corrupt it'll put them in anyways, and there will be a blank spot drawn instead of the AVI. Aside from that, I can't really think of an explanation, really... sorry :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauseum Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 Bravo, brilliant once again. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frease Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 Thanks for the update! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btbt5bt Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 (edited) great job!!!! but I am using the Win2K package from darkt.net, looks cool and it really take me back to W2K time but stay with XP :D Edited April 2, 2006 by btbt5bt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin10018 Posted April 3, 2006 Share Posted April 3, 2006 You sure you're actually using the latest release, and that you didn't have a old cached page pointing to an old cached copy of the file? AFAIK/AFAICT, Reshack won't produce any output if the AVI files are missing, and if the files are corrupt it'll put them in anyways, and there will be a blank spot drawn instead of the AVI. Aside from that, I can't really think of an explanation, really... sorry :blush: I had the same problem here on my German Windows XP. For avis Replacer replaces the wrong language resources. On a German Windows XP all icons and bitmaps are written to 1031, which is correct. The avis are written to 1033 (English Win XP) and you end up with resources in 1031 and 1033. But Windows displays the 1031 ones obviously. I've changed the string '1033' to '1031' in all of the scripts and everything works perfect now (German Win XP). Dunno why Replacer injects only the avis in the wrong resource string? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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