bangbang023 Veteran Posted January 29, 2006 Veteran Share Posted January 29, 2006 kobe and MJ are similer players. young MJ was like kobe(ball hog). a young MJ could have never socre 81 points. at any Age MJ couldnt stick 81 points. and the Ds are weaker now is just stupit since the big Guys now are bigger and faster, they have more options in D now. im not say now Ds are better but we just dont know.but MJ was just a offence player in the 80's. but he did get help from the team(didint make any player better) his team won 3 chapionships with him(then he came back for 3 more). then made the playoffs once at less of the 2 years MJ was gone could the lakers make the playoffs in 2 year with out kobe, no. the lakers are # 8 seed at best now, how was the bulls in the 80's. but MJ is better then kobe Your reply is full of misinformation. First of all, defense almost doesn't exist in the NBA anymore. It's all about offense now and anyone who pays any attention to the game will tell you that. The simple fact that no one really went after Kobe proves it. While it may not be all that nice, 10 years ago, Kobe would have gone to the floor at least once when he attempted to drive it in and, if he didn't slow down then, he would have gone down yet again. Second of all, how long has Kobe been in the league? At this point in his career, Jordan was much further along that Kobe is now. Finally, could the Lakers make the playoffs without Kobe? Well, how about looking at the fact that there's a good chance they won't make it WITH him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587126705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluepride35 Posted January 29, 2006 Share Posted January 29, 2006 How many titles did the BUlls win before Jordan came? How many during his two year hiatus to play baseball? How many since he left? Yeah I think he MIGHT have made that team better. What did TOny Kukoc do without Jordan in his career? And Pippen, while a good player, rode Jordan's coattails to those titles. MJ and Kobe aren't even in the same stratospheric level. Like I said, just look at the numbers and awards/titles. Kobe's very near his peak right now. 27 is pretty close to a player's athletic peak. Sure he may become a better palyer head-wise but pure athletic ability he's right around that peak age. His numbers will never be better than this year and he'll still be well off of any Jordan-esque pace for his career. And he got a four (or three?) year head-start. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587127266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
futb0l Posted January 30, 2006 Share Posted January 30, 2006 I think everyone agrees that MJ is still the best of all time and Kobe is nowhere near him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587130860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 First of all, defense almost doesn't exist in the NBA anymore the 2 teams that played each other in the finals were the best Ds in the leage and how many forms of D are in the NBA vs the NBA 15 years ago 10 years ago, Kobe would have gone to the floor at least once when he attempted to drive it in and, if he didn't slow down then, he would have gone down yet again 25 and 30 years before jordan came in the leage players didnt jump that high because they will get their feet knock form the bottom of them does that mean jerry west or mr 100(you all know who i mean) is better jordan, no.i will agree with you on one thing, well two things. MJ is better then kobe and players now dont know how to play D(well alot of them are coming out of collage 2 or 3 years in and from High School were points are 1st and D is 2nd) if a player from HS plays a player from collage(if they are both 19)who will be better at D. At this point in his career, Jordan was much further along that Kobe is now not further along, just better then kobe. and kobe wasnt the leader of his team like jordan was. at the start of kobe's career he had eddie jones(a player that people compare to MJ at the start of his career and also had a similer style to kobe to show him how to play with this ablilities)and shaq(the team leader). Finally, could the Lakers make the playoffs without Kobe? Well, how about looking at the fact that there's a good chance they won't make it WITH him that is why i put "the lakers are # 8 seed at best now" and is their any laker now that is better then Pippen( i wouldnt say kobe is since they both won nothing with out the one "big" Peace Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587139467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thagame Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 i thought you meant kobe and mj (michael jackson) lol. of course you cant compare. mj was innocent and kobe was a rapist Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587139469 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbang023 Veteran Posted February 2, 2006 Veteran Share Posted February 2, 2006 .... Everything you said is basically a complete reversal from what you said the first time around. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587144359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted February 2, 2006 Veteran Share Posted February 2, 2006 i thought you meant kobe and mj (michael jackson) lol. of course you cant compare. mj was innocent and kobe was a rapist Best post in the thread (not literally) :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587147436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpanda Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 my comments are not accurate in this matter as im a michael jordan fanboy. he was like a god to us basketballers in the past. i even had a poster of him as the 8th wonder of the world. kobe? i like kobe beef better. :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587165732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfunk4life Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Everything you said is basically a complete reversal from what you said the first time around. the 1st thing was MJ couldnt score 80 points the 2nd thing was that mj was better(all around) then kobe the 1st thing about D was that their are new formations and ideas of Ds.and the players now are better athlets now. the 2nd thing about D was that players dont know D, but D now is very important and is still played. did MJ play a D like the pistons or spurs last year and year before that( the pistons would have shut down MJ like they did with kobe but MJ would have play D. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/425003-cant-compare-kobe-and-mj/page/2/#findComment-587182298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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