Fred Derf Veteran Posted February 18, 2006 Author Veteran Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Getting back to the men vs Switzerland, one Canadian goal was inexplicably whistled down just before it crossed the goal line and now another goal is under review. The puck was in Gerbers glove but did it cross the goal line? The cameras are in a bad angle to see conclusively. It looks like the entire glove is in the net but you can't see the puck. Edit: Inconclusive, no goal. Some posts about the men's game were moved to this thread from: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=431595 Edited February 18, 2006 by fred666 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted February 18, 2006 Author Veteran Share Posted February 18, 2006 2-0 Switzerland after 2 periods. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 OK, CANADIANS .... it is now time to HOPE, PRAY, and BEG for our Men to win *LOL* (ok, not that desperate yet) but c'mon Boys! You did good after a few hrs sleep, you can do much better when not jet lagged! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 How many 5 on 3 powerplays did Canada have in the first period? I think they said 2 or 3 a few minutes ago but I was doing something else. Crazy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Canada is playing pathetic Larger ice = boring hockey How McCabe made the team is beyond me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 They are killing themselves. Pronger with a slashing on the goalie during a powerplay. Frustration is setting in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212156 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Officiating is **** poor also.... That high stick on Sakic wasn't called. Rather they called a high stick that clipped Pronger. When the ref went over to the Canadian bench THEN he saw Sakic's face cut, and assesed the double minor. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Officiating is **** poor also.... That high stick on Sakic wasn't called. Rather they called a high stick that clipped Pronger. When the ref went over to the Canadian bench THEN he saw Sakic's face cut, and assesed the double minor. Please don't start that. I've had enough of **** poor officiating arguments the past few weeks. Canada is destroying the Swiss in shots on goal. Canada keeps getting powerplays and then they commit stupid penalties to negate the PP. And Gerber is shutting them down. Like I said previously, the Canadians had several 5 on 3 advantages in the first period and did nothing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trauma Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 WOOT! Go Switzerland! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpablo Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Canada lost a game too Switzerland :o This should be a wake up call for Team Canada. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed3okie Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Canada did get robbed on 2 goals Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Please don't start that. I've had enough of **** poor officiating arguments the past few weeks. So u missed it when Sakic got a high stick to the face, but the player who clipped Pronger got the penalty instead. When the ref went over to the bench and saw Sakic's face, THEN assessed the double minor. The ref was standing right next to Sakic. Anyways, im not blaming the outcome on the refs, but admit it, the reffing sucks. Canada played like garbage, very undisciplined and only turned it up when they were losing. Even those 22+ shots on goal in the 3rd, dont mean much. The Swiss covered the shooting lanes so well from every possible angle, made Gerber's job a little easier. Even though he had some good saves. FYI Gerber is one of the streakiest goales in the league and over rated at times. He'll ride a high for a couple of games then play worse than Theodore. Luckily for him, he has a good Carolina team infront of him to pick up the slack when he underachieves. Large ice/Euro rules = boring hockey even Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saerdna Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Have fun as long as it lasts because sweden is about to hunt canada down in the ladies final. and probably later in the week the men will be owned aswell :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
qdave Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 i cant believe that swiss defeated damn canadians! never i was so happy for canada loosing GO SWISS GO! maybe they even can win gold :p oh yeah, and canda wasnt robed of any goals! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Large ice/Euro rules = boring hockey Larger rink requires more speed, more skill and definitely more ability than putting a bunch of 100kg+ 200cm guys to stand around who can't skate for more than 30 seconds before they're out of breath. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212226 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 They are killing themselves. Pronger with a slashing on the goalie during a powerplay. Frustration is setting in. I don't know any ref in the world in his right mind would have called that slashing. BUT you are correct that that really helped with the Frustration. For the first 2 period they looked like a bunch of overpaid grown men that knew they had the best team and couldn't care less to fall infront of a puck. They are supposedly the fastest hockey players in the world and they're getting beat to the puck by players that's aren't good enough to even make the ahl nevermind the nhl. For the last 10 minutes of the third you could really see the fire growing in them though. Every rush was broken up by a stupid shoelace in the crease call, the most BS call in the world with slashing on pronger. Even worst was the tripping call on Iginla - he STEALS the puck from between the swiss players legs, passes the puck to the point, pulls his stick out from between the swiss players legs, taps his thigh on the way out, and gets a tripping call. Just wow. From the overhead angle of the canadian goal, half of his glove was in the net. Is the puck going to be in the front of a glove of the back of a glove after a shot that pulled your arm back 6 inches??? Back to the angle of the camera, it was obviously about 5 or more degrees forward of the net so the glove would have been further back in the net than the camera would leave you to believe. If his hand was down 1 foot from the crossbar it would have been atleast 1 inch further in the net than what it looked like on the camera. Overall, a dissapointing game. The Canadian didn't try hard enough for the full 60 minutes. Then frustration was built up and eventually set in towards the end of the game. They should be really fired up now, they better be. I expect no less than 10 goals next game. And hopefully we don't get thrown into the temporary rink again where errors are bound to happen and don't draw us non-nhl refs named "Bulanov" again. But all in all, I think all these things combined should really get them ****ed off enough to throw everything into the rink for the rest of the tournament. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Larger rink requires more speed, more skill and definitely more ability than putting a bunch of 100kg+ 200cm guys to stand around who can't skate for more than 30 seconds before they're out of breath. passing, playmaking, checking and strategy are lost to speed and 'skill' (which i assume you mean 1 on 1, stickhandling). And i didn't see any speed out there by the Swiss. I saw a good collapsing team which blocked a lot of the shooting lanes and a hot goalie. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Can we just say that the over paid, underworked NHLers have started feeling the "effects" of jet lag? *LOL* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miuku. Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 passing, playmaking, checking and strategy are lost to speed and 'skill' (which i assume you mean 1 on 1, stickhandling). I wasn't talking about this particular game, you were criticizing the large rink as being boring. And passing/playmaking is definitely more important on a larger rink instead of just throwing the puck at the end of the rink and hoping one of your guys gets there first. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587212426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted February 21, 2006 Veteran Share Posted February 21, 2006 Well, Canada is winning against the Czechs 3-1. That's right, we scored our first goals in 6 periods. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587225224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axon Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 (edited) Canada wins 3 - 2 over Czech Republic This puts us in third place in our group. Seems like we're kinda repeating Salt Lake City again :laugh: -Ax Edited February 21, 2006 by Axon Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587225368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tran Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hopefully we can play stronger and better with each progressive game. We really came out strong in today's game against the Czech. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587226128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Hopefully we can play stronger and better with each progressive game. We really came out strong in today's game against the Czech. We came out strong, but thanks to a couple of very weak goals by Richards and St Louis we took the win. Vokoun didn't look like his usual self, Brodeur let in a weak 2nd goal too... but thats the way it is and theres no changing it. We still have to come out stronger vs Russia tommorow because Vokoun was the deciding factor for us vs. the Czechs. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587226691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted February 21, 2006 Global Moderator Share Posted February 21, 2006 Nice!! (Y)(Y)! we needed that win Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587226695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTerminator Posted February 21, 2006 Share Posted February 21, 2006 Good first period today, weak everything else. We really need to step our game if were gonna beat the Russians. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/432786-team-canada-mens-hockey-cruises-in-opener/page/2/#findComment-587226701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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