Civilian Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 "Conscious that K8 architecture could not compete with the next high-speed motorboat of INTEL, all its hopes are for the moment based on a new 'revolutionary' technology (it is our opinion, not it his) on which AMD works in this moment for after-K8. This technology is in fact a kind of anti-HT: There or HyperThreading sought to emulate two virtual processors with a physical processor, it is a question for AMD of emulating a single virtual processor with two (or several) physical processors." http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2006/04/17/am...hyperthreading/ :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Genius! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daedalus Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 At first I didn't see the point, until I read: If AMD can perfect the ability to make multiple cores appear as one, then it could take a massive performance lead in applications that are single-threaded - like the vast majority of games right now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 At first I didn't see the point, until I read: Same. All I can say now is.....Dammmmnnnnn Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Civilian Posted April 17, 2006 Author Share Posted April 17, 2006 Imagine a Dual Core FX-60 2.6ghz running in 'single core mode' at 5.2ghz ! :cool: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG- Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I really hope AMD realease a driver so that Current X2 chips can do this. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony-inpo Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Imagine a Dual Core FX-60 2.6ghz running in 'single core mode' at 5.2ghz ! :cool: :cool: that would be pretty amazing I really hope AMD realease a driver so that Current X2 chips can do this. :D Yeah, I hope so too, but as Hyper-Threading is a in-build function of processors, not driver related, I don't know if that will be possible Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToneKnee Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Woo! AMD sure have brains! :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosidius Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Why didnt anyone think of this before? :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 That would be very intresting indeed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePitt Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 a sort of "Anti-Hyperthreading," which would allow two (or multiple) physical cores to emulate one physical core. :| Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivand Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 lol, i get it now, i hope they can pull this out Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422631 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Who would of thaught that 6Ghz processors would actually be possible! It's just an idea at the moment, sounds plausable, but I would wait until some prototypes are actually made. If it works, it would not increase latency. ie: 1x6Ghz computes twice as FAST SPEED as 1x3Ghz, while 2x3Ghz computes twice as MUCH QUANTITY as 1x3Ghz. 3Ghz is 3Ghz, and it can't get any FASTer than the clock. It would improve overall speed for large computations though (process as MUCH QUANTITY half the time). This can be done with Multithreaded Applications, so the biggest gains would be in applications not programmed as Multithreaded (and without the overhead of software Multithreading) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422636 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazih3nri Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hopefully, it would own the new Intel chips... then again how long will this take to get from the thinking tank to production?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pc_Madness Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Hopefully, it would own the new Intel chips... then again how long will this take to get from the thinking tank to production?? AMD are supposed to be releasing a new cpu in 2007, perhaps thats what this is, Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrA Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 (edited) Why didnt anyone think of this before? :) It has been and it's been dismissed, mainly by the virtualization people. This is a very difficult, if not impossible problem and I would be very impressed if AMD got this to work. EDIT: I should mention that IBM does something sorta like this in its mainframes. They use two processors to execute the same instruction and then compares the results. If they're the same, everything's good. If they're different, then both processors are shutdown and marked for replacement since one of them is bad. Think of it as RAID 1 for CPUs. Different from what AMD is working on, but it still combines two processors to make one virtual on. Edited April 17, 2006 by MrA Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Awesome News. I guess I may switch over to AMD Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 Way to go AMD :D Let's see what Intel is going to do with that... I am and AMD fanboy but I always like competition Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 great idea, because threading an application can be VERY hard....and without that the application can't really take advantage of the 2 cores Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeonandromere Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 This isn't anything new or innovative on AMD's part. Intel has been working on a similar technology. Intel Mitosis: http://www.intel.com/technology/magazine/r...eading-1205.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azusa Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 wow AMD are like the Soviets they don't have all the flash whitsles or bells intel has but god damm they just go 1000 miles ahead when the aposeing corps get that little foot ahead Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 wow AMD are like the Soviets they don't have all the flash whitsles or bells intel has but god damm they just go 1000 miles ahead when the aposeing corps get that little foot ahead read the post above yours....i wouldnt say 1000 miles.....not even one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ew2x4 Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 I think this would be more benificial with quad cores. Dual 6 Ghz cores. Really they are four 3 ghz cores. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 why are you people acting like it will have the same effect as doubling the ghz? this wont give you a 5ghz machine from a dual core 2.5ghz, just like the regular dual cores right now are not "doubling" the speed...this isn't much different, it will speed things up but it wont double the ghz lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse Carlton Posted April 17, 2006 Share Posted April 17, 2006 why are you people acting like it will have the same effect as doubling the ghz? this wont give you a 5ghz machine from a dual core 2.5ghz, just like the regular dual cores right now are not "doubling" the speed...this isn't much different, it will speed things up but it wont double the ghz lol It would essentially be the same as doubling the clockspeed. AMD's do 9 (i think) operations per cycle, so if you double it to 18 on a 2ghz cpu, that's the same as doing 9 instructions on a 4ghz cpu = 36Gips Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/453169-amd-developing-reverse-hyper-threading/#findComment-587422970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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