Scirwode Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 (edited) Apple are a hardware company first, software company second, and while they do care to a certain extent, if you want to run the software you still have to be using a Mac to run it. Err... a few of them can run on Windows. I know, because as soon as I visit the shops, they are displaying it on a PC. It's very obvious at Low Yat, Sungai Wang and the shadier side of Puduraya. And it costs RM 5 for a normal CD and RM 20 for the DVD which has a few tutorials. They are now touting the Adobe products that can run on PC and Mac hardware at the moment. PSG22 Edited April 22, 2006 by PSG22 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 22, 2006 Veteran Share Posted April 22, 2006 Err... a few of them can run on Windows. I know, because as soon as I visit the shopt, they are displaying it on a PC. It's very obvious at Low Yat, Sungai Wang and the shadier side of Puduraya. And it costs RM 5 for a normal CD and RM 20 for the DVD which has a few tutorials. They are now touting the Adobe products that can run on PC and Mac hardware at the moment. PSG22 Yeah, it is possible to run them on a normal PC (i doubt anybody didn't know that), but it's harder to do it (and i know that is a stupid excuse, but it's the truth) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancity001 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Oh genuine advantage, how i hate you so. Sad thing is, all of the computers in my house (there are 8) are using the same windows volume license key. They all have a license for XP, but I just cant stand the bloody activation every time i need to do a reformat. Sadly its gotten to the point where someone who owns licenses just pirates anyways to get around all this crap. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowcra Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Just a quick question here guys. I go to college, and our college gives us a key that can be used over and over again, like volume or corparate keys. If this is given the green (wga that is) will this upset my windows or not? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EddieF Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Why is everyone so bugged about this? :unsure: However there are good news for those who still don?t wish to validate their copy (and no it is not GEICO). There is a way for users to turn off the notifier but it may be turned back on in the future as they try to download the latest updates to IE or Media player or take advantage of the Buy Local offers through their local system builder. Just turn it back off after every IE or MP upgrade. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Yeah, it is possible to run them on a normal PC (i doubt anybody didn't know that), but it's harder to do it (and i know that is a stupid excuse, but it's the truth) Yes, but the crackers do the job of making the program run on Windows and they get paid by the pirates for their work :p . So the consumers don't have to do anything much but just copy some files or open the keygen or crack. The only program that I've encountered that hasn't been cracked properly is Maya 7.0 Unlimited as I still haven't figure out how to get it installed in my computer. The instructions aren't very clear :wacko: :blink: . PSG22 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 LOL, who wants to pirate apple? No, seriously, you CAN'T pirate apple, because you have to buy an Apple to get it running (I know, I know about the patches... but then again, you don't get updates from apple for those) thats where you're wrong, OSX can be used on a regular PC (i did before i got my macbook). And you do have to pay for upgrades (ie: going from 10.3 to 10.4 or soon 10.4 to 10.5) and alot of people do just get a dvd from the internet instead....which is pirating.... so yes apple has the same problem....just not on the same scale Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 The fact is, no one NEEDS Microsoft to run a computer. Sure right...There are still alot of apps that aren't on Linux.....You'll problably use Vista anyways so. Their measures are nothing.....Because this will get cracked in 15 minutes tops....Hell it problably has already been cracked. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtreme $niper Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 From the first time users get the request to validate they have 14 days to comply. After 14 days they will not be able to download security upgrades such as IE7 and Windows Defender. Critical security updates will still be available like it is now. So basically what they are doing is taking advantage of the fact that Windows is full of security holes, and using that against their customers as a means to get them to be scared that they won't be able to secure their system anymore. Lame. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 So basically what they are doing is taking advantage of the fact that Windows is full of security holes, and using that against their customers as a means to get them to be scared that they won't be able to secure their system anymore. Lame. Well, if you put it that way :p :shiftyninja: . PSG22 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 After 14 days they will not be able to download security upgrades such as IE7 and Windows Defender. Critical security updates will still be available like it is now. So computers with pirated versions of Windows are now going to be more vulnerable? So, that's around 50% of PCs that will be affected... and those users will also be subjected to a popup box appearing every hour or so? LMAO, this will be entertaining to say the least. Sure it won't affect critical patches but security is still being reduced. Hopefully it will encourage people to pirate better software, as if Windows wasn't such a wreck to start with people wouldn't have to worry about their computers being more vulnerable. It's ridiculous that Microsoft have let it slide this long... it was obviously done only to increase the install base of Windows and create a dependency on it just so that they could do something like this. If they actually price Vista sensibly and implent this system correctly then they could actually rake in the sales. Either that or there'll be a crack within a day (and yes, I know there is currently a WGA crack available - there's just no guarantee it will work with this new version) and Microsoft will be back to square one. *shrugs* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertin Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Yay, this will be fun. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439401 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted April 22, 2006 Veteran Share Posted April 22, 2006 Get over it guys, its not the end of the world. The ones complaining about this are obviously the ones hiding something. Validate your copy and your done, its as simple as that. You have to call in to validate? I called in three times and I spent 2 minutes, at most, with them on the phone and I haven't been bothered by it ever since. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Doesn't bother me one bit, every copy I run, XP MCE, XP Pro, and Vista Beta are all legit. I don't mind having to do a few extra things because I know my versions are legit, and if I do run into some problems, I can get it fixed. People act like calling up microsoft to activate windows is such a pain, what does it take like 5 minutes total? Get a clue, you people complaining have no reason to unless you're running a warezed version of windows. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubble Wrap Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Doesn't bother me one bit, every copy I run, XP MCE, XP Pro, and Vista Beta are all legit. I don't mind having to do a few extra things because I know my versions are legit, and if I do run into some problems, I can get it fixed. People act like calling up microsoft to activate windows is such a pain, what does it take like 5 minutes total? Get a clue, you people complaining have no reason to unless you're running a warezed version of windows. qfe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 gee, because we know it won't get "fixed" in a week or two once they release it anyways :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439486 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John. Subscriber¹ Posted April 22, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 22, 2006 If anything, the pop up would have only encouraged people to crack it. Hopefully when Vista comes out, stuff like this won't be so easy to do. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obsolete_power Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 But anyone who doesn't have a legal copy just won't install it. What's the point? I don't think it will be this easy to dodge it :p They will force it in an update most likely. thats where you're wrong, OSX can be used on a regular PC (i did before i got my macbook). And you do have to pay for upgrades (ie: going from 10.3 to 10.4 or soon 10.4 to 10.5) and alot of people do just get a dvd from the internet instead....which is pirating.... so yes apple has the same problem....just not on the same scale OSX is one sixth of the cost of windows. so people have no problem spending $99 on it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted April 22, 2006 Veteran Share Posted April 22, 2006 If anything, the pop up would have only encouraged people to crack it. That doesn't make no sense. Whether the pop up is there or not, if the person cracks it its because they had intentions to do so in the first place. Your average joe will not crack it because they won't know how to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyarecomingforyou Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 OSX is one sixth of the cost of windows. so people have no problem spending $99 on it. Plus they offer a family pack with 5 licences for less than twice the price of the regular version... I'm surprised Microsoft don't. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlogank Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 OSX is one sixth of the cost of windows. so people have no problem spending $99 on it. Are you retarded? So are you telling me that OSX costs $15.83? Because that is 1/6 the cost of XP Home, since I just paid $90 for it 2 days ago. Apple fanboys are uneducated and ridiculous. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ienhz Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 That doesn't make no sense. Whether the pop up is there or not, if the person cracks it its because they had intentions to do so in the first place. Your average joe will not crack it because they won't know how to. Uhh how does it not make sense? More people will want to (and will search for a way to) crack it because of the nagging screen. The current WGA has no nags or anything and most people could care less about cracking it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted April 22, 2006 Veteran Share Posted April 22, 2006 Uhh how does it not make sense? More people will want to (and will search for a way to) crack it because of the nagging screen. The current WGA has no nags or anything and most people could care less about cracking it. Like I said, the people that crack Windows install it with the knowledge of how to do so from the beginning. The average joe will buy a PC with it installed and not worry about it. Do you seriously think a 65-year old grandmother will be able to find a crack for Windows? :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted April 22, 2006 Global Moderator Share Posted April 22, 2006 oh goodie.. now it's going to be annoying rather then just "in the way" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNay Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 There will always be cracks for this bs and granny will turn to her grandson who installed it ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/454715-microsoft-is-taking-wga-to-the-next-level/page/2/#findComment-587439564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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