Callaway Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Somewhat old news, but classic. NYTimes Jack Curry (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/06/sports/baseball/06bonds.html) PHILADELPHIA, May 5 ? When Barry Bonds jogged to left field in the first inning here, some fans unfurled a huge banner with a message that he could not miss. Simply and cleverly, it said, "Ruth did it on hot dogs & Beer." Before Bonds could even get to his position for the San Francisco Giants, the typically unforgiving Philadelphia fans told him what they thought about his pursuit of Babe Ruth's hallowed 714 homers. There have been suspicions that Bonds used performance-enhancing substances to help him collect some of his 712 homers. If Bonds somehow did not see the white banner with black letters that was almost as long as a row of seats, the fans also chanted, "Just retire." Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
bayrider Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 LOL good one by the Philly fans :) You know what this means right? Another special on ESPN about Bonds dispelling the Philly banner and crying like a little baby that everyone is so hard on him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabureiru Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 not only he did it on Hot Dogs and Beer, but the ball was heavier, the strike zone was bigger, he did it in less time. He is Base Ball (for me at least) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted May 9, 2006 Veteran Share Posted May 9, 2006 the rest of the banners: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonhead Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Thats awesome :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
quick Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 LOL :D Good job (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallithrax Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 the rest of the banners: So Aaron, you did it with class hey? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj6ross Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 I must say that was very clever. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587491824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
saotome6 Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 ruth was also an alchoholic ###### who would of been eatin alive in todays media crazed society Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted May 10, 2006 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2006 ruth was also an alchoholic ###### who would of been eatin alive in todays media crazed society And how does his personal life have anything to do with his accomplishments in sports? They have a very good point. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kin Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 gotta love us philly fans (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macro Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 not only he did it on Hot Dogs and Beer, but the ball was heavier, the strike zone was bigger, he did it in less time. He is Base Ball (for me at least) They also didn't pitch as fast back then, it was a whole different game and hard to compare, like any other sport over that long of a time And how does his personal life have anything to do with his accomplishments in sports? They have a very good point. The fans celebrate what you do based on the person you are too so the personal stuff matters. Not in the statistical sense but in how you are remembered by people and history Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Allen Veteran Posted May 10, 2006 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2006 That's awesome :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted May 10, 2006 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2006 They also didn't pitch as fast back then, it was a whole different game and hard to compare, like any other sport over that long of a time The fans celebrate what you do based on the person you are too so the personal stuff matters. Not in the statistical sense but in how you are remembered by people and history But this is not about the fans. It's about the simple fact that he did do it without the alleged steroid usage of Bonds. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotmike Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 I laughed my ass off when I heard about this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted May 10, 2006 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2006 So Aaron, you did it with class hey? :laugh: Always. ;) And how does his personal life have anything to do with his accomplishments in sports? They have a very good point. But this is not about the fans. It's about the simple fact that he did do it without the alleged steroid usage of Bonds. I'm not so sure about that. Most fans outside of San Francisco have not liked Bonds much. Steroids has just given everyone else a legitimate reason to dislike him, other than he's just an arrogant butthead. I think that if Ruth were playing today he wold not be popular. We'd have guys on the news asking whether or not he's a good role model and what is wrong with baseball today if a boozing, womanizing "thug" is the most celebrated figure in baseball. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587493675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCIvey Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 They also didn't pitch as fast back then So you're saying humans have evolved so much in the last 90 years that men can throw 10 maybe 20 mph faster than men in the 1910's and 20's. nonsense Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587507237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplyPotatoes Posted May 14, 2006 Share Posted May 14, 2006 We'd have guys on the news asking whether or not he's a good role model and what is wrong with baseball today if a boozing, womanizing "thug" is the most celebrated figure in baseball. very few pro athlete that make a role model...they go free after most crimes, but very rich market area, billion's $..wont change. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587507267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 They also didn't pitch as fast back then... Huh? :blink: Anyways, I've seen this sign a lot... it'll be a classic! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 But this is not about the fans. It's about the simple fact that he did do it without the alleged steroid usage of Bonds. We can drop the 'alleged' word. He did take steroids in the cream, remember? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeeperOfThePizza Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Records are meant to be broken! but none the less Steroids are no good.. and If Bonds is found of that.. bad day in sports. :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 Records are meant to be broken! but none the less Steroids are no good.. and If Bonds is found of that.. bad day in sports. :no: If? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchasem Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 So you're saying humans have evolved so much in the last 90 years that men can throw 10 maybe 20 mph faster than men in the 1910's and 20's. nonsense Well, compare the world record for the 100meter dash today with the record from 100 years ago.. new training and practicing methods and stuff exist now.. People hone their skills over time... so in a way, yes, humans have 'evolved' to throw faster balls, run/swim faster, jump higher/farther... (also the technology and crap has probably made it easier too) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ew2x4 Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 So you're saying humans have evolved so much in the last 90 years that men can throw 10 maybe 20 mph faster than men in the 1910's and 20's. nonsense Acctually, yes. Athletes are more commonly stronger, faster, and generally better. This is due to training and in general, the popularity of the sport has evolved. An example is the OU Sooners football team. In the way back years they had a little streak going for 47 straight games. The folks on ESPN were trying to look at the greatest football team of all time. Now compare this team to last year's Longhorns (National Champions). It is a complete mismatch. The biggest lineman on the Sooner's team was 5'5" tall. Compare this to today's athletes who are regularly 6'6" tall. Fact is, things change. You obviously have no knowledge of atheletics, past or present. When talking about the topic at hand, steroids in baseball, I find it hard to fight against Bonds. This is all about a level playing field. We can't compare Maris to Ruth because Roger had a longer season. Well Babe hit against pitchers that had no relievers. Etc. When looking at steroids in baseball, you have to look at it that the majority of the baseball players used steroids. If Bonds used, most likely so did the opposition. The pitchers, out field, infield. They would up their game evenly. It's not just Bonds who used, so this shouldn't be a witch hunt. The majority of players used. And through all of the given disadvantages and advantages that each player has on their side, I have to think that in the end, they all cancel out and the winner is determined by athletic and mental skill. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587508907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCIvey Posted May 15, 2006 Share Posted May 15, 2006 You could also argue these points... 1. The balls used in Ruth's era were softer and harder to hit long distances 2. There was no such thing as a "hitters park". Todays stadium are built to produce more offense. 3. Baseball stadiums didn't have lights until the 1930's, so even on an overcast day it's harder to see the ball. 4. As one person in this post argues, players todays are stronger and have better training facilities and better medical staffing, cutting down injuries and increasing stamina. 5. The mound was higher until the late 1960's, giving pitchers a huge advantage over batters. any more? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/459520-babe-ruth-did-it-on-hot-dogs-beer/#findComment-587509589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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