PGHammer Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Looking like my System is ready for Windows Vista Ultimate Edition. Even tho, I plan to build me a new System before Vista comes out! The biggest issue from what I can see (with the Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor) with most PCs running XP *isn't* the CPU (most computers running XP have more than enough CPU, apparently), but RAM (system RAM, graphics RAM, or both) and hard drive space. The Upgrade Advisor also seriously explodes the myth that Vista will require basically a new PC (the *only* hardware issue that the UA pointed out is that I *may* need to add a USB TV tuner or TV tuner card (because of issues with ATI's Theater 200 driver); my HDTV Wonder is supported by Vista directly (as is everything else), so it's nice to know that my *current* hardware is Vista-ready). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587521755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghoul2oo3 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 It's not an update to any previously installed software, and therefore, does not show up if you check "show updates". If you execute the installer again it will ask you to uninstall it. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587521981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M118LR Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 One of the things I like about this tool is at the end of the test you have the option to either print the results or save to your hard drive. It checks everything from your motherboard to your hard drive. I highly recommend that everyone run this test. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587521983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WooSH Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 ooh great. beta software telling u if u can run bigger beta software! leave it to microsoft...lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
felixml Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 just like anything MSFT releases in relation to Vista it is a very basic version just to show the most basic things about your PC. Nothing new here to me. Quite useless even, interesting, but not useful Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 My notebook says it can run Windows Ultimate but I would need to upgrade my graphic card as my ATi Radeon 9200 doesn't support Pixel Shader 2.0 and only has 64 MB RAM :p . PSG22 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 ya, i downloaded this test its realy cool, all you do is check what you want to do with vista, it tells you what verson is best, for your choices, then it scans your system, and tells you if your pc is vista capable, and what is good and wehats not, and what needs to be upgraded to get the full portential of vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sn4k36 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Mine says i can't upgrade because i don't have enough disk space when i got two 40gig hard drives, and alot of drivers i need. lol What a joke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.F.D.K Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 hmm on mine says that vista ultimate will be the only one for you PC but there will be a certain time where vista ultimate will not be able to cope with your computing power :rofl:, i guess i will be alright Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 80 Gb HD , not te best, but good, what are your drivers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Ahh I still dont know if i want home premium or ultimate for my tablet Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Mine says i can't upgrade because i don't have enough disk space when i got two 40gig hard drives, and alot of drivers i need. lol What a joke. And you're loath to upgrade your hard drive *why*? Let's face it: hard drives, such as they are, are at the lowest prices per GB of storage space *ever*. 160 GB hard drives are now considered *average* for a one or two year old PC. (I installed a 200 GB SATA drive in my PC almost two years ago; at the time 200 GB was considered *large*. Nowadays, it's considered *small* as far as SATA drives for desktops go.). The hard drive it *replaced* was as large as both of yours put together. In short, sir, big hard drives are cheap. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus- Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Ahh I still dont know if i want home premium or ultimate for my tablet Home premium does not contain tablet pc bits. You will be stuck with a laptop (and not a tablet pc) if you do that. The business versions have the tablet pc bits, the home pro has the media center bits and ultimate has both. Hope that clears up any confusion on the fact that you should not buy home pro or home basic for your tablet pc. :D Interesting note is that this contains the winsat program and the winsat switches work. Try winsat aurora. A full list of switches can be found in other places. :rolleyes: Edited May 19, 2006 by Nexus- Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGHammer Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 just like anything MSFT releases in relation to Vista it is a very basic version just to show the most basic things about your PC. Nothing new here to me. Quite useless even, interesting, but not useful I find it useful...as a myth-exploder. Especially of the biggest myth surrounding upgrading to Vista: that the operating system requires a bunch of new hardware. In most cases, people will find they require very little in the way of new hardware (in most cases, none at all). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.F.D.K Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 80 Gb HD , not te best, but good, what are your drivers? 558GB two 300 Maxtors on raid0 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587522725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdbrookes Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Ok this tool tells me to upgrade my graphics card coz its only 64mb (it supports pixel shader and everything tho so thats ok). However, will Vista give me the choice of running Aero fully, or will it outright prevent me? The graphics card on my laptop is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 64mb, I've read about users with the exact same spec using beta versions of Vista will full Aero no problem... I have a pretty good CPU and over a gig of memory etc, graphics run great on this machine (HL2, FEAR etc). What ya think? I don't want to be locked out of this "Aero experience" :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vykranth Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Tested on it on my old x86 box. I have to add a new HD, otherwise I am all good. not bad for a 4 year old machine with a new graphic board Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*John* Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I installed it, told it what I wanted, and old it to check my system....... Apparently I should be getting Windows Vista Business, which is coincidentally what I was planning on getting anyway :D My computer can run all the core elements of Windows Vista without any problems :D BUT...... I have to contact the manufacturer about MOST of my drivers??? :blink: What the hell does that mean? :blink: Will Vista work or not? If most of my core system hardware doesnt have Vista drivers, how the hell can I use Vista? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishrman Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) It means that currently the manufacturar has not released Windows Vista capable drivers; that's all. Look for an update to this Upgrade Advisor to come in November, when the bits RTM, and drivers start being released in drones droves by various manufacturars. Edited May 19, 2006 by the_ubernated Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*John* Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 It means that currently the manufacturar has not released Windows Vista capable drivers; that's all. Look for an update to this Upgrade Advisor to come in November, when the bits RTM, and drivers start being released in drones by various manufacturars. Oh ok :) Cheers Uber (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Home premium does not contain tablet pc bits. You will be stuck with a laptop (and not a tablet pc) if you do that. The business versions have the tablet pc bits, the home pro has the media center bits and ultimate has both. Hope that clears up any confusion on the fact that you should not buy home pro or home basic for your tablet pc. :D Interesting note is that this contains the winsat program and the winsat switches work. Try winsat aurora. A full list of switches can be found in other places. :rolleyes: Well, thas not what I see here Windows Vista Home Premium Windows Vista Home Premium is the operating system for homes with advanced computer needs. It will help you use your laptop or desktop PC more effectively as well as enable you to enjoy new, exciting digital entertainment experiences?all with the benefit of added security and reliability.b>New user interfaceb>Windows Vista Home Premium has a new user interface named Windows Aero?, which is both efficient and beautiful. This new interface makes it easier than ever before to find your way around the operating system. It even makes it easier to accomplish multiple tasks at once by providing a three-dimensional, real-time, animated view of all of your open applications and documents. Additionally, Windows Vista Home Premium helps you quickly find and organize large collections of documents, pictures, movies, videos, and music. By integrating search throughout the operating system, Windows Vista Home Premium helps you quickly find exactly what you are looking for.Improved mobilityWindows Vista Home Premium makes it easy to take your home computing experience with you wherever you go. For example, Windows Vista Home Premium includes Tablet PC technology that enables you to interact with your Tablet PC-compatible computer with a digital pen or with your fingertip instead of having to use a keyboard. Computers that include Windows Vista Home Premium and an auxiliary Windows SideShow? display will also allow you to access key data even when your computer is off. It is also easier than ever to share files between other PCs in your household and to manage your laptop computer settings to more securely connect to your favorite WiFi hotspot.->More entertaining->Windows Vista Home Premium will improve every aspect of your digital entertainment experiences including viewing and sharing photos, video, TV, movies, music, games, and more. For example, Windows Vista Home Premium enables you to create your own DVDs and edit your own high-definition movies. Most significantly, Windows Vista Home Premium includes all of the Windows Media Center capabilities for turning your PC into an all-in-one home entertainment center. Windows Media Center in Windows Vista provides new ways for you to enjoy your music, photos, and DVD movies. You can also use Windows Media Center to record and watch your favorite TV shows (even HDTV) and to access new kinds of online entertainment content. You will also be able to connect Windows Vista Home Premium to your Microsoft Xbox 360 to extend your Media Center experience to multiple rooms in your home.[/bWhatever you choose to do with your home PC, Windows Vista Home Premium will deliver a more complete and satisfying computing experience.->i> ->and this is stright from the Windows vista Home Premuim website: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getr...me_premium.mspx and they got rid of the home Pro the versons are as folows Windows Vista Business Windows Vista Enterprise Windows Vista Home Premium Windows Vista Ultimate . Windows Vista Home Basic Edited May 19, 2006 by Tech_Dude_5000 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 That's strange :blink: . I thought only Windows Vista Business Edition would only support Tablet PC. I must have miss something somewhere... :unsure: . PSG22 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien_0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Home premium does not contain tablet pc bits. You will be stuck with a laptop (and not a tablet pc) if you do that. The business versions have the tablet pc bits, the home pro has the media center bits and ultimate has both. Hope that clears up any confusion on the fact that you should not buy home pro or home basic for your tablet pc. :D Interesting note is that this contains the winsat program and the winsat switches work. Try winsat aurora. A full list of switches can be found in other places. :rolleyes: yea this is what im confused about, I can go with home premium and be fine, but doesnt ultimate have bit locker, and the performance enhancing gaming stuff, because i do game on this tablet, and I am mobile a lot. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coth Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Doesn't work under WinXP x64 :angry: yeah, same for me. another "good support" of x64... :rolleyes: well... i have removed launch condition from msi and installed it... but there is 32bit winsat says it cannot be run under 64bit windows, so adviser say can't run winsat... i tried one from vista, but adviser still say same anyone know where can i download winsat x64? Edited May 19, 2006 by coth Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587523950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
techdude5875 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 darn they took it down, geez, they probably are upgrading it then going to make it an activex control, i wanna try winsat aurora in command prompt nd see wat happens!!! :) :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/462303-windows-vista-upgrade-advisor-beta/page/2/#findComment-587524804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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