mattmatik Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 You fail to realize that Ben didn't lead anybody because he barely even threw 20 passes/game. Without that running game, Ben would be mediocre :whistle: So, could Trent Dilfer have won a Super Bowl with the Steelers? Their defense was nowhere close to the Raven's Super Bowl defense. I'm with Bro, I'd take a guy like Ben who doesn't make mistakes and put pressure my defense to make plays all the time. Granted, he isn't going to throw for 400 and 5 every game but we've seen what guys like that accomplish (hint: Marino, Manning). Something has to be said for intelligent play on the field...not turning it over, making sure that 3rd down pass gets at least a first down, managing the clock, etc. Other than Tom Brady, Ben is the at the top of that mountain. Regardless, the helmet issue is a slap in the face. Here in California, in order to ride a bicycle on city streets, you HAVE to wear a helmet or you can be cited. Pennsylvania needs to go back and re-write their laws because wearing a helmet on a motorcycle should not be an option. Period. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587604169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badazzEVO8 Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 You fail to realize that Ben didn't lead anybody because he barely even threw 20 passes/game. Without that running game, Ben would be mediocre :whistle: hmm its funny cuz i remember in the colts and broncos games he seemed to come out firing from the start? or was i just imagining that... Other than Tom Brady, Ben is the at the top of that mountain. exactly. no big stats but ball control as for that top 5 list..... culpepper? vick? LMAO ooooook Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587604395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted June 14, 2006 Veteran Share Posted June 14, 2006 So, could Trent Dilfer have won a Super Bowl with the Steelers? Their defense was nowhere close to the Raven's Super Bowl defense. I'm with Bro, I'd take a guy like Ben who doesn't make mistakes and put pressure my defense to make plays all the time. Granted, he isn't going to throw for 400 and 5 every game but we've seen what guys like that accomplish (hint: Marino, Manning). Something has to be said for intelligent play on the field...not turning it over, making sure that 3rd down pass gets at least a first down, managing the clock, etc. Other than Tom Brady, Ben is the at the top of that mountain. Regardless, the helmet issue is a slap in the face. Here in California, in order to ride a bicycle on city streets, you HAVE to wear a helmet or you can be cited. Pennsylvania needs to go back and re-write their laws because wearing a helmet on a motorcycle should not be an option. Period. I agree with you that Ben an Brady both manage the game well without necessarily standing out on their own. A few years playing fantasy football teaches you that. As successful as Brady is, he's not a good Fantasy pick because he doesn't put up crazy stats. Now, I have to disagree with you about helmet laws, though. I think that is your choice and there should be no law against it. If you want to risk killing yourself, that's your business. I think it is incredibly stupid to not wear a helmet, but I don't think there needs to be laws saying you have to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587605272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Was sorry to hear about Big Ben's accident and hope he's going to be ok. As for the helmet issue, I want to know why in the hell do I HAVE to wear a seatbelt (law requires it) and they don't have to wear a helmet. Does that make sense to anyone?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587605339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted June 15, 2006 Veteran Share Posted June 15, 2006 Granted, he isn't going to throw for 400 and 5 every game but we've seen what guys like that accomplish (hint: Marino, Manning). The reason he doesn't throw for those stats is because they run the ball more than 60% of the time, which is what I stated before :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587607256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badazzEVO8 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 lucky number 7 :woot: seems hes leaving the hospital today, new titanium jaw and all and most likely ready for season opener Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/469393-steelers-roethlisberger-is-in-accident/page/3/#findComment-587607922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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