bob3160 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Is Apple, through its policy of not selling it's operating system, promoting or endorsing piracy? We know that dual booting from an Intel? Core? Duo processor between a Microsoft Windows XP and an Apple OSX operating system is possible. If you purchase a computer from Apple, with OSX installed as its native operating system, Apple has software available (bootcamp) to make dual booting between OSX and XP possible. If however you own the same Intel? Core? Duo processor which has Mirosoft's Windows XP operating system installed as it's native operating system, the only way to achieve dual boot capability between Mac OSX10 and Windows XP is through a pirated and patched OSX10 install Remember, none of this is theory, it is fact.t. Wake up Apple! Make the money while the market is ripe. Please don't wait till the market is floodedpirateded, altered and posinfecteded technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hoffman Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple isn't promoting piracy. They are promoting the sale of their hardware. Get real man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trong Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 No? I don't even like Apple and I know they aren't. They clearly don't want people installing want OSX on a regular PC. They've said that somewhere so many times. I think MS is fine with XP on the Apple computers so it's fine for bootcamp but Apple does not want their software on a PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gowcra Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 whoah, a full on thread. no company wants to promote piracy. simple as chum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin-uk Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple isn't promoting piracy. They are promoting the sale of their hardware. Get real man. exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Some people definitely have a twisted way of thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 But Apple isn't promoting people to download and install illegal copies of OS X on windows machines? :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hoffman Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 [sarcasm] Was just watching a football game, and a commerical came on. It was Steve Jobs promoting OS X on any x86 machine. He said all you need to do is download a torrent, crack it, and its ready to go. [/sarcasm] Apple isn't promoting anything. There are no commericals, and there are no newspaper ads. Oh, and just so you know - there are a lot of people in the world, and most of them couldn't give a crap about OS X vs Windows. Most people in the world don't even realize they are on something different. In fact, most people think that the OS is built into the computer and can't be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin001 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Off Topic.......... Is that u :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple is a hardware company, they have released Bootcamp in a bid to convert users to purchase their hardware with the incentive of being able to boot both OS X and Windows operating systems. OS X will only (legally) run on Apple hardware, it's not Apple's fault if people decide to pirate OS's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 Yeah, just like when i go up to random people and ask for their car keys, and they don't give them to me, they are promoting car theft. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Most people in the world don't even realize they are on something different. In fact, most people think that the OS is built into the computer and can't be changed. Maybe in america dude, but I've yet to meet a single person that didn't know the operating system could be changed and I deal with a lot of computer iliteate people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheppard Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 2 Reasons why they dont: 1) They make their money from the hardware not the software. 2) To enable people to install OSX on any grey box x86 system it would mean having to write drivers for every possible combination of hardware out there, not only would this take too long it would also make the OS unstable due to companies writing their own drivers. If you want OSX that works, buy a mac mini, they arent prohibitively expensive and they work out of the box. Otherwise you are stuck with the illegal patched OSX dvd thats floating about and all the incompatible hardware and drivers that go with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 It'd be cool if Apple allowed OSX on non Apple hardware They (might) make a good killing with it I rekon. PLUS people would still buy mac's anyway..... Just my opinion anyway :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Hoffman Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Maybe in america dude, but I've yet to meet a single person that didn't know the operating system could be changed and I deal with a lot of computer iliteate people. Interesting. I've never been overseas, but I can vouch that american's are quite dumb sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple will never sell thier OS for regular hardware for a number of reasons. Here are a couple off the top of my head - They make more money from the hardware. The reason Windows seems so expensive is because Microsoft only makes thier money through software sales. You could get a similarly spec'd PC for anything between $300 and $800 less than what you'd pay for the Mac equivelant. When you compare that to the Price of Vista Ultimate, all of a sudden things don't seem too different, do they? Apple would have to deal with a lot of hardware compattibility issues. The reason Macs seem so unstable is because a lot less hardware is likely to run on it. The biggest cause of BSOD's on windows are poorly written drivers. This isn't specifically Microsoft's fault and they have tried to fix it with their Digitally signed drivers scheme, but only when this becomes compulsary (probably in the version of windows after Vista, not including 64bit) will you really see the benefits of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera963 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Is Apple, through its policy of not selling it's operating system, promoting or endorsing piracy? We know that dual booting from an Intel? Core? Duo processor between a Microsoft Windows XP and an Apple OSX operating system is possible. If you purchase a computer from Apple, with OSX installed as its native operating system, Apple has software available (bootcamp) to make dual booting between OSX and XP possible. If however you own the same Intel? Core? Duo processor which has Mirosoft's Windows XP operating system installed as it's native operating system, the only way to achieve dual boot capability between Mac OSX10 and Windows XP is through a pirated and patched OSX10 install Remember, none of this is theory, it is fact.t. Wake up Apple! Make the money while the market is ripe. Please don't wait till the market is floodedpirateded, altered and posinfecteded technology. :p Glad that's cleared up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brody McKee Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple doesn't care for anyone but themselves. So if you pirate their software - good luck to you. You won't see them offering MacOSX to Windows customers because we all know that MacOSX couldn't handle the thousands of devices they'd need to support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinetix63 Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 I don't think Apple are promoting piracy at all. In fact, Apple have gone to great lengths in order to make it as difficult as possible - reliance on TPM chips, introduction of EFI.... At the end of the day, Apple are never going to make their OS available to all x86 processors. One of the many reasons OS X is so popular is because everything "Just Works" in it. Making it available to all systems introduces untested hardware configurations, and the necessity for hardware drivers not thoroughly tested by Apple before hand - they would instantly lose the "It Just Works" feature of their operating system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimera963 Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Apple doesn't care for anyone but themselves. So if you pirate their software - good luck to you. You won't see them offering MacOSX to Windows customers because we all know that MacOSX couldn't handle the thousands of devices they'd need to support. No need to knock Apple coz you can't get OS X on a PC. And OS X could handle the thousands of devices, but if Apple made it for PC, everyone would have to THEN make drivers for it, and it would be far less stable, hardware-wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kushan Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 And OS X could handle the thousands of devices, but if Apple made it for PC, everyone would have to THEN make drivers for it, and it would be far less stable, hardware-wise. Does this not contradict itself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 I don't think Apple are promoting piracy at all. In fact, Apple have gone to great lengths in order to make it as difficult as possible - reliance on TPM chips, introduction of EFI.... ... EFI isn't really an anti-piracy method, it's just because the BIOS sucks (Linux supports it as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted September 17, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 17, 2006 Read the EULA for OS X. Strictly against piracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzy88ss Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 that was probably one of the dumbest threads I've read on here in a long time, especially in the OSX forums. (i didn't read any of the responses) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pc_Madness Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 Maybe in america dude, but I've yet to meet a single person that didn't know the operating system could be changed and I deal with a lot of computer iliteate people. Your grandma knows that Windows <> Computer? You must live around alot of smart people, cos as far as I'm aware, Windows == Computer is a pretty common understanding amongst most illierates. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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