primexx Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Sorry, NDA. i'm pretty sure you already breached that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587914934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Thanks for posting, I want it! @PsykX, go ask Nvidia and ATI, it's more their fault and not Microsoft's. Damn video drivers. lol well it's not really nVidia or ATI's fault because they are responsible for the graphics that appear on the screen when you play a game only, not for what's running on the background. I know what you mean though, it's up to them to make the next-gen video cards compatible with DX10.0 On the other hand, MS was supposed to disable most of the services when you play a game, I haven't heard about this feature being cut nor implemented. If, indeed they shut down all the useless services in the background, it can give more CPU usage, RAM usage and more Disk usage to spend on the games! That's like one of the only features in Vista that really did surprise me, that and DX10, so I hope it's not removed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587914941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 i'm pretty sure you already breached that. Oh man...the NDA has BEEN breached this Vista was a fetus. You didn't know? :huh: :rolleyes: /sarcasm I really wish we could stop with the "No. Can't discuss because of NDA." crap. :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587914950 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeta Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 lol well it's not really nVidia or ATI's fault because they are responsible for the graphics that appear on the screen when you play a game only, not for what's running on the background. I know what you mean though, it's up to them to make the next-gen video cards compatible with DX10.0 On the other hand, MS was supposed to disable most of the services when you play a game, I haven't heard about this feature being cut nor implemented. If, indeed they shut down all the useless services in the background, it can give more CPU usage, RAM usage and more Disk usage to spend on the games! That's like one of the only features in Vista that really did surprise me, that and DX10, so I hope it's not removed. Err. ATI and nVidia's display drivers are *always* active when you've installed them. If anything is appearing at all on your screen, you're using them. I've had a few random blue screens using ATI's RC1 beta drivers, when I just go to hit switch user or the like. It's a bit of a nuisance. I haven't had time to debug the minidump yet, but I'm pretty sure it's ATI's fault... since it doesn't happen with the stock drivers that come with Windows =) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587914996 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I can't edit my previous post but I mean't "since Vista" *. - tired :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaisinCain Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Uh, no... It's a DVD- Digital Versatile Disc. Not a compact disk (CD). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyblue Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Anyone actually been able to download it yet?> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Just out of curiosity, how do you know this? It's less than a month from RTMing, why would we get another build? TAP testers are the real beta testers, they'll get more builds, but I don't see why we would. What do you mean real beta testers? That's insulting to those of us on the techbeta that work very hard and may I add for free in an effort to make Windows Vista decent. Beta Testers will get at least another build before RTM. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliot B. Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Uh, no... It's a DVD- Digital Versatile Disc. Not a compact disk (CD). I was being pedantic. A DVD is a disc, that is compact :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915804 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hajj_3 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 hopefully there may be 1 more build released to normal testers as there are still quite a few issues with 5728. /me prays that vista is delayed by 1 month so that it becomes a lot more bug free :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587915822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazket Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Very good talk indeed. The only thing is you all already left the 5734 subject far away from being the central poin of the conversation. DVD is meaning? and Compact Disks???? NDA?? Oh I know why, is it because there are no screenshots of the build available yet? :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 ^^ check the front page... Paul's got some screenies for us, no changes. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted September 28, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 28, 2006 ^^ check the front page... Paul's got some screenies for us, no changes. Thats 5728. Older build. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 ^^ Oh my bad, you're right. I looked at it this morning when I was still half asleep :blink: :laugh: I hate Paul anyways :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkyblue Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I have a feeling this build is fake. No other sites have mentioned it, and no one has confirmed that they have downloaded it..I smell a rat! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M118LR Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 What do you mean real beta testers? That's insulting to those of us on the techbeta that work very hard and may I add for free in an effort to make Windows Vista decent. Beta Testers will get at least another build before RTM. TAP is the top dog, always has been. They get weekly builds as stated. Tech Beta maybe one a month if you are lucky. Tech Beta is due to get one more build. For TAP, they could get four more builds. So who is more important ? Looks to be TAP. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biznotch Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 would be nice to see some screenshots... not that anything will really change that much at this late stage (unfortunately). wondering when they will put the sounds in finally?? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoDEAN Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 would be nice to see some screenshots... not that anything will really change that much at this late stage (unfortunately). wondering when they will put the sounds in finally?? Every post with a vista build screenshot looks the same, just a different build on the bottom left. Not much to get excited about over that bud Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeston Veteran Posted September 28, 2006 Veteran Share Posted September 28, 2006 Every post with a vista build screenshot looks the same, just a different build on the bottom left. Not much to get excited about over that bud I believe you mean bottom right ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ic1male Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 DirectX 10 is not backwards compatible so it won't appear on XP. Games will be made that offer a DX9 or a DX10 path which will be in accordance with your OS and hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarvnDuran Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 I will wait a little before there's a stable build and can't wait to test it in Boot Camp :p All I wanna know is will it play games better? I know nobody has an answer on this, but still. I want the question answered asap by microsoft... I mean, all I will do on Windows is play games and some of my work with office 2007. Otherwise, I never use Windows. Actually over at www.winsupersite.com Paul has done quite a bit of testing on games. According to him HL2, Doom 3 and others run as good or better than XP. Google a bit before making asumptions. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587916942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFkilla Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Actually over at www.winsupersite.com Paul has done quite a bit of testing on games. According to him HL2, Doom 3 and others run as good or better than XP. Google a bit before making asumptions. I'm not sure about this... :huh: Its true that since RC1 game speed have increased but its definitely less framerate in Vista than in xp for the same games. But with some games its hard to feel the difference. Ex: Farcry runs around 55fps in Xp for me and it runs around 45fps in vista 5728. Actually i even found a link were they tested ATi & Nvidia on vista & Xp here: Source of the benchmark here:Click me! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587917007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Drivers aren't optimized yet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587917085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFkilla Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Drivers aren't optimized yet. Exactly... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587917214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 Exactly... :D Well of course they aren't, but lets not think that Vistas gaming experience will increase 30+ % with just better drivers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/2/#findComment-587917224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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