freak_power Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 The gaming experience with Windows Vista will be either equal or worse compared to Windows XP. With true DX10.0 title, it will be different...you can't even compare then. I think with Vista we go one step back as far as FPS in DX 9.0 titles... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587917248 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greasy Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 The gaming experience with Windows Vista will be either equal or worse compared to Windows XP. With true DX10.0 title, it will be different...you can't even compare then. I think with Vista we go one step back as far as FPS in DX 9.0 titles... No way to tell until we get some good drivers. I think in the end it will be very close. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587918128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coth Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 screens http://www.thevista.ru/page.php?id=6782 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stunna Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I dont know too much about this but I dont think vista will play games better than XP until newer hardware comes out something to do with user mode drivers vs kernel mode. Anyone know more about this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrismaddern Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 I dont know too much about this but I dont think vista will play games better than XP until newer hardware comes out something to do with user mode drivers vs kernel mode. Anyone know more about this? Although yes, it is possible that the performance could be increased by optimizing cards for kernel mode execution, most of this can be achieved through driver refinement for our current gen of cards. It's more to do with how the commands and usage is translated at the moment; once we get efficiency here, there should be no difference in speed, with increased stability. Chris Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 TAP is the top dog, always has been. They get weekly builds as stated. Tech Beta maybe one a month if you are lucky. Tech Beta is due to get one more build. For TAP, they could get four more builds. So who is more important ? Looks to be TAP. Exactly. Anyone can be insulted by what I said, but it doesn't make it any less true. Tech Beta testers are below TAP testers, which is why I didn't think we'd get anymore builds, I knew TAP testers would. Personally, I think it is a waist of time for Tech Beta testers to get anymore builds, they should all go to TAP. But that's just my opinion and obviously Microsoft doesn't agree with me :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 What does TAP stand for? I'm feeling lazy to check out myself... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Exactly. Anyone can be insulted by what I said, but it doesn't make it any less true. Tech Beta testers are below TAP testers, which is why I didn't think we'd get anymore builds, I knew TAP testers would. Personally, I think it is a waist of time for Tech Beta testers to get anymore builds, they should all go to TAP. But that's just my opinion and obviously Microsoft doesn't agree with me :p :rofl: ;) It's cool. If I get back for SP1 or Vienna I'm going to coast my way through the beta and not give so much care factor as I did with Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Blood Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 ~technology adaptation program or sth like that Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfoos Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 ~technology adaptation program or sth like that Close but it's Technology Adoption Program. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Natan Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Thanks, guys! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587919916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
computerpro2 Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Just thought i would drop in and give you guys some insight as to why there are no screenshot(s) or any other comments on this build. When Microsoft releases a product to the Technology Adoption Program (TAP), it is against policy to release information to the "Public" about the product(s). This means that the public will not get to see screenshots, video or articles on any build that is given to TAP. Under normal conditions the public will not even know about the build(s) or product(s) Microsoft ships to TAP unless someone leaks that information, which again would be against policy. So basically right now we [the public] should not know anything about this build except for those of us that are TAP members. The only builds that the press are allowed to give any information on are public builds, which include public beta(s), or build released to MSDN, TechNet, or Technical Beta Testers. The only thing stopping the press from releasing screenshots or any other information is Microsoft. i hope this helps you better understand why there isn't any information about this build.... [Winxperts.net Journalist] Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587922991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Who cares. The TAP build still has the same flawed Aero Interface. So it may haveo some new wallpapers and a boot screen. Seriously, so what? It's not like Microsoft is actually hiding anything worth hiding. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeeekyyy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Who cares. The TAP build still has the same flawed Aero Interface. So it may haveo some new wallpapers and a boot screen. Seriously, so what? It's not like Microsoft is actually hiding anything worth hiding. :p It's still NDA, and leakers can still get in serious trouble. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 It's still NDA, and leakers can still get in serious trouble. The worst thing that can happen is getting blacklisted by Microsoft. shrug Who cares?! It's not like TAP Testers or Beta Testers get paid or anything.. What's the big deal about playing with a dodgy / buggy operating system anyway? I just don't give a monkeys' anymore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iaTa Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Just thought i would drop in and give you guys some insight as to why there are no screenshot(s) or any other comments on this build. :whistle: http://www.thevista.ru/page.php?id=6782 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
XerXis Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The worst thing that can happen is getting blacklisted by Microsoft. shrug Who cares?! It's not like TAP Testers or Beta Testers get paid or anything.. What's the big deal about playing with a dodgy / buggy operating system anyway? I just don't give a monkeys' anymore. that's because you obviously can't look behind your own nose, for software companies it's very important to have the latest builds and make sure their software is compatible with it. But as you are so biased against everything microsoft anyway I don't think you care. So be it, but at least stop making stupid comments like that in every vista thread Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1Frothy Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 that's because you obviously can't look behind your own nose, for software companies it's very important to have the latest builds and make sure their software is compatible with it. But as you are so biased against everything microsoft anyway I don't think you care. So be it, but at least stop making stupid comments like that in every vista thread Do you mean.. I can't look past my own nose? :ermm: I'm not biased about Microsoft products I'm ambivalent. I think there is a difference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/499279-build-5734-released-to-testers/page/3/#findComment-587923114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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