mcwaite Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 So we've got word of CSS and CoH running poorly? Any other games that didn't get fixed? Anyone know how BF2 or Warhammer runs? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587964162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Gigabyte GeForce 7600 GT 256 Mb Man you're lucky. I've got a 7800gt and the screen flickers way more than it should for CoH. Nvidia is really making me consider ATI for the next computer I build. Yes I know it's a release candidate, but if they're going to release drivers that say RC2, then they should work as stable video drivers: on RC2. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587964168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted October 18, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 18, 2006 Sigh after hearing these comments I'm not very excited about this :/ OK, here's a positive comment: These drivers are an improvement over 96.33. Games like UT2004 finally run decent again, some GUI glitches I saw in Prey were gone, and for videos they don't seem to stutter anymore. (This also could be because I just flipped Superfetch off.) But for those complaining about low FPS versus XP's drivers: give it some time. They (nVidia) haven't completed their freaking control panel yet. Man you're lucky. I've got a 7800gt and the screen flickers way more than it should for CoH. Nvidia is really making me consider ATI for the next computer I build. Yes I know it's a release candidate, but if they're going to release drivers that say RC2, then they should work as stable video drivers: on RC2. Oh, I'm sure those guys that ran into the error code 43 problem for a long time would be more than grateful to get at least a game working over flickering problems in a specific game. Does ATI have OpenGL support yet for their drivers? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587964393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Update: These drivers are a no go for me. They caused my screen to go berserk when a game or screen saver is on the screen and i have to restart the computer to see anything again. It is the type of screen when you set your resolution too high and everything goes scrambled, thats what it looks like. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587964647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin91 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Update: These drivers are a no go for me. They caused my screen to go berserk when a game or screen saver is on the screen and i have to restart the computer to see anything again. It is the type of screen when you set your resolution too high and everything goes scrambled, thats what it looks like. :( Same.. XP ftw. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
raimi Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 After these drivers, i gave up and deleted my Vista partition. Attleast XP has a good working drivers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 First nVidia driver to work well with my BFG 7900GT. The drivers are not sign so you get a RED popup window when trying to install them. I just clicked "Allow" and everything when fine. This is using x64 RC2. Dual monitor works great (as with default Vista RC2 driver, I had no problem). No problem playing Need For Speed Most Wanted or Sims2. :yes: :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenin91 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 First nVidia driver to work well with my BFG 7900GT. The drivers are not sign so you get a RED popup window when trying to install them. I just clicked "Allow" and everything when fine. This is using x64 RC2. Dual monitor works great (as with default Vista RC2 driver, I had no problem). No problem playing Need For Speed Most Wanted or Sims2. :yes: :) Youre lucky.. Duals doesn't work at me in vista at all :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Youre lucky.. Duals doesn't work at me in vista at all :no: My 7900GT is connected to a dual display, one 22" 1680x1050 (main) and a 19" 1280x1024 (secondary) The only problem I have is with Media Player. Movies are choppy on the main display but fine and smooth on the secondary display!!! And that happen even if i'm not in full screen... Using whatever codec! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgeorge Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Microsoft has already said that EAX and any direct driver hooks into the audio system are DOA in Vista (which renders Creative X-Fi a $150 equivalent to a SoundBlaster 16). It's not going to be pretty when Microsoft confirms that SLI & CrossFire (and any direct driver hooks into the video system) are DOA in Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Microsoft has already said that EAX and any direct driver hooks into the audio system are DOA in Vista (which renders Creative X-Fi a $150 equivalent to a SoundBlaster 16). It's not going to be pretty when Microsoft confirms that SLI & CrossFire (and any direct driver hooks into the video system) are DOA in Vista. Where are you getting this information? It's plain wrong. Creative has new beta drivers for X-Fi for RC2, works very well for the first time. nVidia and ATI just need to make new drivers for Vista and SLI and CF will work with no problem. It's a new OS with new requirements for drivers. Give it some time and everything will work great. Anyway, they all have until january 2007 to build good working drivers, since it's only at that time that "everybody" will be able to buy Vista. November release of Vista is only for business, not very hardcore users. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabe3 Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 These drivers are alright, I get higher FPS in battlefield 2142 and dual monitors still work fine, like they did with the stock drivers that came with RC2. However I still get serious curruption in full screen games, I have to run the game in a window and all problems are gone, I just match the game's video resolution with my desktop resolution and the game apears full screen, but in a maximized window. Sticking with these drivers over the stock RC2 ones just because I get higher FPS in gaming. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587965982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambroos Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 nVidia makes extremely good drivers for Windows XP! They keep improving them over and over again, so i think that they just need some time! BTW: Vista is released within ca. 10 days, but that's for business etc. When nVidia get's the final Vista, they will start developing at high-speed to get us some very good, working, fully featured drivers! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587966023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mram Subscriber² Posted October 18, 2006 Subscriber² Share Posted October 18, 2006 Some random unsupported quoter on the intarweb has already said that EAX and any direct driver hooks into the audio system are DOA in Vista (which renders Creative X-Fi a $150 equivalent to a SoundBlaster 16). It's not going to be pretty when some random unsupported quoter on the intarweb confirms that SLI & CrossFire (and any direct driver hooks into the video system) are DOA in Vista. Fixed that for you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587966081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgeorge Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 Where are you getting this information? It's plain wrong. Creative has new beta drivers for X-Fi for RC2, works very well for the first time. nVidia and ATI just need to make new drivers for Vista and SLI and CF will work with no problem. It's a new OS with new requirements for drivers. Give it some time and everything will work great. Anyway, they all have until january 2007 to build good working drivers, since it's only at that time that "everybody" will be able to buy Vista. November release of Vista is only for business, not very hardcore users. *Sigh* Go ahead and try to use EAX or CMSS. Guess what, they don't work. There's a long post from one of the Creative reps on their forums explaining that those type of features are no longer supported in Vista. Lots of people are angry about it, but nothing Creative can do about it. Has nVidia or ATI confirmed that SLI/Crossfire support is forthcoming? Don't count on it... Maybe on DX10-level cards. Direct Quotes from Creative Forums Rep on their support forums: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/bo...message.id=1694 "The Vista audio architecture changes the way per-stream audio processing works, which required us to write new software to support this. Issues that may be encountered: CMSS no longer works on audio streams from the OS." "The Vista audio architecture disables DirectSound 3D hardware acceleration; resulting in legacy DirectSound based EAX game titles not working as they did in XP. Issues that may be encountered: Could range from loss of EAX functionality in EAX enabled games to a complete game incompatibility, depending on how the game title was authored." At least Creative is being upfront about it and admitted it. You try telling hundreds of people who spent $150 on an audio card that their expensive card now functions like a $5 onboard Realtek audio chip in Vista. nVidia and ATI are simply being evasive about the lack of SLI support in Vista. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587966599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
briangw Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 These drivers finally fixed the glitching on CoH on my HP Laptop (GEForce 7600 Go) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587966666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 18, 2006 Share Posted October 18, 2006 "The Vista audio architecture changes the way per-stream audio processing works, which required us to write new software to support this. Issues that may be encountered: CMSS no longer works on audio streams from the OS." nVidia and ATI are simply being evasive about the lack of SLI support in Vista. Hey, Creative is writing it themself... "REQUIRED US TO WRITE NEW SOFTWARE". It's Creative job to make their card work with Vista. It's the same for SLI or CF. It's not the OS that enable SLI, it never was even with WinXP. It's the drivers that do the job. I've read on nVidia forum that SLI enable driver would be out by the time Vista ship to everyone in january 2007. I guess it must be the same for ATI. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587966677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted October 19, 2006 Veteran Share Posted October 19, 2006 *Sigh* Go ahead and try to use EAX or CMSS. Guess what, they don't work. There's a long post from one of the Creative reps on their forums explaining that those type of features are no longer supported in Vista. Lots of people are angry about it, but nothing Creative can do about it. Has nVidia or ATI confirmed that SLI/Crossfire support is forthcoming? Don't count on it... Maybe on DX10-level cards. Direct Quotes from Creative Forums Rep on their support forums: http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/bo...message.id=1694 "The Vista audio architecture changes the way per-stream audio processing works, which required us to write new software to support this. Issues that may be encountered: CMSS no longer works on audio streams from the OS." "The Vista audio architecture disables DirectSound 3D hardware acceleration; resulting in legacy DirectSound based EAX game titles not working as they did in XP. Issues that may be encountered: Could range from loss of EAX functionality in EAX enabled games to a complete game incompatibility, depending on how the game title was authored." At least Creative is being upfront about it and admitted it. You try telling hundreds of people who spent $150 on an audio card that their expensive card now functions like a $5 onboard Realtek audio chip in Vista. nVidia and ATI are simply being evasive about the lack of SLI support in Vista. I cry utter bullcrap coming from Creative. Just why does it (CMSS on OS audio streams) work ON THEIR BETA 2 DRIVER and not in their RC1 driver? They must've broken something deliberately. But thanks for posting that quote above; I was wondering why CMSS failed to work with the RC2 drivers. Crap, now it looks like starting from next month I'll have to put up with bugged drivers because Creative like smart arses decided to drop timebombs on drivers. :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587967646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
0sit0 Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 i tried it and the sims pets wont start with it :( rolled back the drivers and worked fine :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587967659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balmorro Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 Here comes nVidia with a display driver specifically for 5744 already? Get on the ball, ATI. We Radeon users don't even have OpenGL working yet, at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587968043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajbcs Posted October 19, 2006 Share Posted October 19, 2006 god guys settle down... its NOT EVEN FINISHED YET... when it gets to the RTM stage, Nvidia, ATI and all other companies can sit down and start working hard on their drivers for the final release... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587968094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBreakerG Posted October 20, 2006 Share Posted October 20, 2006 I'm not sure whats going on, but I upgraded to RC2 from 5728. For some reason I can't install Vista on my desktop without already being in an OS (specifically XP or Vista itself). I can boot to the dvd, but when I get into the setup application it fails and says that its missing a required driver to install. I can use the exact same dvd and install it on my laptop (Dell Inspiron 9300) without any problems at all. The DVD drive I have in my desktop is a NEC ND-3500A. Vista doesn't seem to like that drive at all. But anyway, here's the problem that I'm having with RC2 but didn't have with RC1 (and also a problem I had with RC1 but don't have with RC2, so I guess its kind of a trade off). 1.) RC1 Problem: Media center would not change channels correctly when using my satellite receiver. If i had something set to record, it would constantly change to the wrong channel and wouldn't record the correct show. RC1 Good Side: No problems using Media Center or WMP11 full screen watching videos. 2.) RC2 Problem: Media Center and WMP 11 flickers VERY badly when using it full screen, but in windowed mode, its fine. It also causes the audio to stutter very badly as well (I upgraded both the audio and video drivers, new nVidia drivers and new Creative Audigy drivers) RC2 Good Side: Media Center changes channels correctly consistently now when recording. Its like I can't win for anything. Also, I cant play Scarface: The World Is Yours on Vista. The video is so corrupted you can't see anything on screen. The game works fine in XP though. However, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory runs great on Vista at 1600x1200 with everything set to max on my 6800 Ultra, it also shows up in the Game Explorer. I just hope these problems are attributed to bad drivers. I'll try uninstalling both the video drivers and reinstalling them to see if that fixes the problem (i didn't uninstall the RC1 nvidia drivers before I installed the RC2 drivers). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/504210-nvidia-vista-rc-2-whql-driver-released/page/2/#findComment-587972434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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