kronix2 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 theyarecomingforyou said: No, it's not accepted because nobody has any need to use it. Our language and terminology aren't based on what is technically right but upon what trends dominate - that is how brands like "kleenex", "xerox", "google" and "hoover" became everyday words. You can't just go around using foreign terms and expect people to know the intimate details behind them. We all know that's you're clearly a superior person but when dealing with us simpletons on the forum you could trying using the same terminology as the other 95% of the population. MiB and GiB aren't "foreign terms" if you've studied computer science. You're criticising somebody for knowing the difference between 1000 and 1024. You'd think that most people would be able to interpret MiB as MB. I don't use MiB or GiB, by the way. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588080893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Caro Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 There's nothing wrong with differencing 1000 from 1024, even if the "common usage" says otherwise. In scientific notation, giga, mega, and such things have always been 10^(something) and not 2^(something). So a bit of clarification doesn't hurt anybody. Chill out Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588080915 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeburner Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 I have 1 gig of ram (two 512 sticks if it matters) and my Vista says 1023.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081029 Share on other sites More sharing options...
riahc3 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 1. Its MB. End of story 2. Vista/MB problably takes/reserves some of the space in the system memory for itself With those 2-3 MB of memory I dont think you can do much. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ajapi Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 To end the GB/GiB debate, this is the way it goes: while GB is the popular term, GiB is the technically correct one. So either one will work (though you must admit you might be misunderstood if you use GiB around non tech-savvy folks :p). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081951 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nub Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Vista says I have 511 when I had 512 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorimcheon Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 It's probably onboard video RAM Whether you use it or not it sometimes uses 1MB or 2MB Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SixFootJockey Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 kronix2 said: MiB and GiB aren't "foreign terms" if you've studied computer science. You're criticising somebody for knowing the difference between 1000 and 1024. You'd think that most people would be able to interpret MiB as MB. I don't use MiB or GiB, by the way. So by that statement, are you saying that most people who use (or are going to use) Windows Vista have a degree in Computer Science? :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588081962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+shift. MVC Posted November 26, 2006 MVC Share Posted November 26, 2006 dorimcheon said: It's probably onboard video RAM Whether you use it or not it sometimes uses 1MB or 2MB I don't think a computer with 1/2MB of onboard RAM, is going to be able to run Vista in any case. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Veteran Posted November 26, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 26, 2006 Just for the record, 640k of base memory is reserved for system usage. I also read sometime ago that there is is 1 or so MB that is reserved. And the whole MiB/MB thing....Most companies state on the packaging that 1MB = 1024kb. I'm not interested. It doesn't increase the performance :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082114 Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1ke Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Mine displays it correctly.. I think. I know I have 1 GB of ram and it says I have 1.0GB Ram Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozgeek Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 theyarecomingforyou said: No, it's not accepted because nobody has any need to use it. Our language and terminology aren't based on what is technically right but upon what trends dominate - that is how brands like "kleenex", "xerox", "google" and "hoover" became everyday words. You can't just go around using foreign terms and expect people to know the intimate details behind them. We all know that's you're clearly a superior person but when dealing with us simpletons on the forum you could trying using the same terminology as the other 95% of the population. He's right. Many pc novices will not understand mib (might stand for Men in Black) but will understand MB since that is everywhere we see storage size. On packages you will see 320 GB. So B KB MB GB TB Are the most acceptable accoyms or you can use: meg giga tera Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKnight13 Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 If we are to use MiB, GiB, TiB, & PiB, the should start calling the memory sizes based off of the power of 2 naming scheme, not the current one. If what is suggested by technical metrics, mega/gigabyte is a completely wrong term in the first place. It won't happen though until hardware & software manufacturers go with a complete standard. Neither do though and it might take a miracle/supernatural act to have this happen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccuk Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 ~*McoreD*~ said: lol, I didn't misspell MB and GB. It's really in MiB and GiB. :) http://members.optus.net/alexey/prefBin.xhtml Can people reverse engineer Product ID to get my serial number? Technically you are correct. But... ...the IEC stated that the adopted naming method of MB, and GB shall remain as the known naming method until such a time as when MiB becomes more widely used. Which is currently isn't. So please stop trying to be clever and, start using terms which people on the forum can understand. As for your missing memory issue. The BIOS will reserve some memory for itself, especially with shadowing enabled, the BIOS coies istelf into the system RAM since this is faster than the ROM in which it resides. So for instance the DFI board probably has an 8mb ROM, yours probably a 2MB ROM. Hope this clears up a few things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505516-missing-2-mib-ram/page/2/#findComment-588082918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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