Slimy Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 A week and a half ago, online reports about an internal countdown clock at Microsoft verified my early 2006 report that the software giant was pushing for an October 25 Windows Vista RTM (release to manufacturing). But last week, Microsoft co-president Jim Allchin admitted that the company had run into a snag and Microsoft wouldn't hit its long-planned RTM date. As of today, however, Microsoft is back on track. Here's what's happening.In an interview with Mary Jo Foley at ZDNet last week, Mr. Allchin said that Microsoft wouldn't be able to RTM Vista by this week. "We are in pretty good shape," he told Foley. "And there are still months before (the January 2007) launch." Allchin was alluding to an internal timetable that I previously reported on in WinInfo: He had previously told the Windows Division that Microsoft could afford to postpone Vista's RTM as late as November 8 and still meet its November and January launch requirements. However, each delay comes with a price, he said: For each day past October 25, Microsoft will ship one fewer localized, language-specific version of Vista for the January launch. I've found out that the source of Mr. Allchin's concerns was an unexpectedly buggy pre-RTM build of Windows Vista that surprised the company. The previous Friday, Microsoft pushed Windows Vista build 5824 into escrow, hoping that this build could qualify as the final shipping version. But a catastrophic problem with the build destroyed any systems that upgraded from Windows XP, requiring complete reinstalls. After a frantic several days of trying to find the bug, Microsoft finally fixed the problem last Friday and reset escrow. Microsoft on Friday internally released build 5840, which did not include the problem. Testing over the weekend produced positive feedback. Windows Vista build 5840 includes a surprising number of brand new and final icons, and a new set of final wallpapers, including a new default wallpaper that is a variation of the Aurora "swoosh" that Microsoft has been using as a Vista identifier since it announced the branding in July 2005. There are no major functional changes. Oh, and that internal countdown clock? Last week, it was reset to countdown to November 8, and not October 25. It's not clear, however, whether Microsoft will be able to RTM Vista before the later date, and which, if any, language-specific versions of Vista will be dropped. Source Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 No new themes :no: well at least we will have a new set of icons and walpapers. so november 8th will be the RTM date? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 i'm still confused on this.. WHY exactly did you people think there were going to be new themes? They've said it for over a year now, AERO is ALL YOU GET OUT OF THE BOX! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 yeah, hurry up, i am waiting go get this at work (even though i hate vista) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximum Error Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 November the 8th or before is my understanding of the post. Does anyone know a date for launch in 2007 for the general public? PC world uk has 2nd of feb but i havent really heard an official time/date? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Elі Subscriber² Posted October 23, 2006 Subscriber² Share Posted October 23, 2006 Finally some good news :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MindTooth Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It is good to see that Microsoft did their promise :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 Good I am glad its finally getting to RTM. Hopefully I can buy an OEM version before launch but doubtful, I will wait, maybe for just a retail of Premium. Windows Vista build 5840 includes a surprising number of brand new and final icons, and a new set of final wallpapers, including a new default wallpaper that is a variation of the Aurora "swoosh" that Microsoft has been using as a Vista identifier since it announced the branding in July 2005. There are no major functional changes. Wonder what the new wallpaper looks like. Something that he might have missed in this, or maybe he didn't miss it. Where are the new sounds? If that is the final build for Vista the sounds should be included to it, there is not a build after RTM to final :unsure: . I'd be happy if those sounds would leak I watched that video from Microsoft, I just want to know how they turned out haha. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980362 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flavv Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 So, the rumors of 6000 for the final build were off by a bit :/ I'm happy it's done, I can't wait until the university gets Ultimate. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 So, the rumors of 6000 for the final build were off by a bit :/ I'm happy it's done, I can't wait until the university gets Ultimate. They can still jump up to 6000 for marketing purposes. The final build may technically be 5840, but when you get your copy in January, the build number may actually be 6000. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acies Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I want to see these new icons and wallpapers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
biznotch Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 I want to see these new icons and wallpapers. yeah me too... and i wouldn't mind hearing the final sounds that are still conspicuously absent from mention. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chavo Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 i'm still confused on this..WHY exactly did you people think there were going to be new themes? They've said it for over a year now, AERO is ALL YOU GET OUT OF THE BOX! It's not "you people", it's only a couple of people that have been bitching about this and Vista in general. It's just that the bitchy ones are very vocal and just don't stop. They post repeatedly in any thread remotely about Vista. So it just seems like everyone at Neowhine is bitching about Vista and these fantasy themes. The ones that are happy with Vista continue to use it. Where I come from the squeaky wheel gets thrown away. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+chorpeac MVC Posted October 23, 2006 MVC Share Posted October 23, 2006 Good news... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
scumdogmillionaire Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 It's not "you people", it's only a couple of people that have been bitching about this and Vista in general. It's just that the bitchy ones are very vocal and just don't stop. They post repeatedly in any thread remotely about Vista. So it just seems like everyone at Neowhine is bitching about Vista and these fantasy themes. The ones that are happy with Vista continue to use it. Where I come from the squeaky wheel gets thrown away. Yeah, "you people" was meant more towards them, not a generalization of everyone here. I dig the Vista and Aero interface. I don't want them to change a thing, personally. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587980768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
:: Lyon :: Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Who cares about wallpapers.. we can always change and find new ones :| How many of you is using xp default wallpapers anyway Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 (edited) They can still jump up to 6000 for marketing purposes. The final build may technically be 5840, but when you get your copy in January, the build number may actually be 6000. anyone noticing a trend with bulid numbers: whister/xp betas: 2xxxxx longhorn/vista : 3xxxx , 4xxxx, 5xxxxx --final 6xxxx ??? --- Fiji - 7xxxx?? Vienna 8xxxx ??? I know the last 2 were way early but a nice trend going on. Edited October 24, 2006 by Tech_Dude_5000 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 yeah, hurry up, i am waiting go get this at work (even though i hate vista) Maybe your afraid it might be that good? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boogerjones Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 They can still jump up to 6000 for marketing purposes. When has MS ever marketed a build number? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981669 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 When has MS ever marketed a build number? may be just to make it even.. Bulid 6000 = NT 6.0 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 I was alot more excited about Vista before they decided to make you by a new version after the second Lic. transfer :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windam Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 may be just to make it even.. Bulid 6000 = NT 6.0 It's Live.. It's full of energy.. and full of power! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 anyone noticing a trend with bulid numbers: whister/xp betas: 2xxxxx longhorn/vista : 3xxxx , 4xxxx, 5xxxxx --final 6xxxx ??? --- Fiji - 7xxxx?? Vienna 8xxxx ??? I know the last 2 were way early but a nice trend going on. Fiji? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
primexx Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 When has MS ever marketed a build number? since forever? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tech_Dude_5000 Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Fiji? the codename for the next minor verson of windows.. here is the best arcitle I could find on fiji Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/505901-ms-overcomes-final-vista-hurdles-heads-to-rtm/#findComment-587981790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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