+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 Greetings everyone! Intel's 955X chipset is basically the same as 975X chipset.Comparison Chart. The only difference is that 975X comes with two PCI-E x 16 slots as opposed to one x16 and another PCI-E x 1 for 955X chipset. Will Core 2 Duo work with 955X chipset? My motherboard is Asus P5WD2-Premium. Asus neither denies, nor confirms support of Core 2 Duo. The impression I'm getting from Intel is that it will work. What do you guys think? and how about Core 2 Quad? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 P5WD2-Premium doesn't and 99% for sure never will support the Core 2 Duo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 Rob2687 said: P5WD2-Premium doesn't and 99% for sure never will support the Core 2 Duo. Did you try it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 No...I''ve read that other people have. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 Rob2687 said: No...I''ve read that other people have. Do I really need to ask for the source? come on... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Greeno~ Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) It'll never officially support it... and it certainly won't work on an Intel board... you're best bet is a Taiwanese based companies board... (see... ASUS, Gigabyte..) they're more likely to defy Intel with CPU support... Quick Edit : You're right about their inherent similarities though, although all that said, why should they want to do this? It could be the little differences that make all the difference. And C2Q... I'd say hell no. Edited November 6, 2006 by ~Greeno~ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021444 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted November 6, 2006 Global Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2006 i have that board and sadly, it will never support Core 2 Duo. it's because of the voltage regulators (VRMs) on the board. they dont meet the specs for Core 2. I felt kind of scammed when i bought the board b/c Asus touted "Support for next-gen cpus" and i thought "hey! i can buy this cheap 805 now and upgrade to Core 2 later!" but no, they meant the 65nm Preslers. so lame. i feel cheated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 Jdawg683 said: i have that board and sadly, it will never support Core 2 Duo. it's because of the voltage regulators (VRMs) on the board. they dont meet the specs for Core 2. I felt kind of scammed when i bought the board b/c Asus touted "Support for next-gen cpus" and i thought "hey! i can buy this cheap 805 now and upgrade to Core 2 later!" but no, they meant the 65nm Preslers. so lame. i feel cheated. Voltage can be set manually... But yeah, I will feel exactly the same if it turns out they won't work ._. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Looks like it's hardware hack time. Anyone want to take the challenge and see if this is possible? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2 Quote Motherboard CompatibilityConroe, Conroe XE and Allendale all use Socket LGA775; however, not every motherboard is compatible with these processors. Supporting chipsets are: * Intel: 865PE, 945P/PL/G, 955X, 975X, P/G/Q965, Q963, 946GZ/PL; * ATi: ATI's Radeon Xpress 200, RD600 and RS600 * nVidia: nForce 4 SLI Intel Edition and nForce 570/590 Intel Edition * VIA: PT880/PT880 Ultra, PT890, PM880 and PM890. * SiS: SiS662 See also: List of Intel chipsets Although a motherboard may have the required chipset to support Conroe, many motherboards based on the above mentioned chipsets do not support Conroe. This is because all Conroe-based processors require a newer voltage regulator module (VRM), named VRM 11. This requirement is a result of Conroe's significantly lower power consumption, compared to the Pentium 4/D CPUs it is replacing. A motherboard that has both a supporting chipset and VRM 11 supports Conroe processors, but even then some boards will need an updated BIOS to recognize Conroe's FID (Family ID) and VID (Voltage ID). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted November 6, 2006 Global Moderator Share Posted November 6, 2006 Zhivago said: Voltage can be set manually... But yeah, I will feel exactly the same if it turns out they won't work ._. read NI3NOR's post... it's not the cpu voltage or anything like that, but a physical part on the motherboard that's not compatible. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) The question now is if P5WD2 Premium has VRM11 on it... I'm still very positive about trying to pair the two. I'll probably try it with E6300, although I want to uprade to E6600. What's the worst that could happen? I'm gonna fry my mobo and the CPU, but that doesn't stop true enthusiasts, does it? %) Core 2 Duo's voltage is 0.850V-1.3525V. I'm gonna check if that's in the range of my P5WD2 when I get home. Edited November 6, 2006 by Zhivago Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Nooooo... -_-' VRM11 as been released after the i975X chipset..... It won't bootup. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588021838 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 The P5WD2 has a much higher voltage range. The lowest is like 1.2xx or something. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588022538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 6, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 6, 2006 Rob2687 said: The P5WD2 has a much higher voltage range. The lowest is like 1.2xx or something. Yeap, I just checked and the lowest voltage on my P5WD2 Premium with old BIOS is 1.2625 which is well in range of Conroe's ceiling of 1.3525V. I'm gonna try to get my hands on a Core 2 Duo (probably a used one) and will get you updated. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588022664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xelium Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 How's the result? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588062291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NienorGT Posted November 19, 2006 Share Posted November 19, 2006 Wow... Zhivago, you made post a 3Yr old member for the first time! :o And no it won't boot, trust me... ? ? You have more chances to kill something than make it work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588062529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 19, 2006 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 19, 2006 Hehe...Actually, the technician where I buy stuff from was very convicining about making it work. The voltage was my biggest concern because of VRM11, but my motherboard could supply voltage well in range for Conroe. I didn't try it though. I bought a new Pentium D945 instead, overclocked up from 3.4 to 4.08Ghz and can't be happier :) It was a good upgrade for $180 CAD. On top of that, I traded in my D820 for a wooping 80 bucks, considering new one is at $120. I should be fine with my system for the next year or so till Bearlake is out - that's what I'm excited about right now :woot: Still, if I get the itch to try to marry Conroe with 955X, you guys will be the first to know :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588063418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesmosis Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 yeah I'm keen to hear is it possible?! coz I got this cool ASUS 955x Premium P5WD2 ;) plz, any one give me a cool post about its overclocking my CPU is 3.0 Mhz LGA 800 BUS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588137692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 It's been a while so I guess he never got it to work....or it exploded and sucked him into another dimension. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588137693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 it wont work. Not only do you need the lower voltages but you also need BIOS support. So even if the Motherboard manufacturer has a voltage regulator that can go low enough to support your core 2 chip it's doubtful that they would add the processors ID to the BIOS for it to boot up correctly. Most P4 boards that don't accept the Core 2 won't allow the machine to boot properly making a BIOS update impossible if you don't have a P4 on hand. Ok so what's the moral of the story? If you have nothing to lose and some spare parts and just don't care about what could happen then give it a try if not don't go out buying a 955X and a C2D expecting it to work. Play it safe with a fully compatible C2D board. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/509806-955x-and-core-2-duo/#findComment-588138089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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