yudi_lks Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Apple will not put a dedicated graphics in the MacBook, If they did then that takes one of the selling points away from the MacBook Pro Exactly... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 But you have to take into account that without a graphic card, the CPU has to process whatever applications that is running and output it to the screen. With a dedicated graphic card, the CPU can just concentrate on whatever task it is doing and leave the monitor screen or output in this case to a graphic card. Even a budget graphic card can help out. It doesn't have to be a gaming machine. It's a bit confusing to me why they won't put it in. The Macbook Pro serves a different market so there is no way that the Macbook can threaten it. So then why? Heating issues? Scirwode of course youre right, but the macbook is supposed to do easy tasks, its not a "pro" notebook and the core2duo with 4mb cache plus the intel chip is more then enough still. the macbook pro does have his own graphics card. full stop. and its enough, its good enough. at the moment the macbook serves a different market than the macbook pro. but if you put a graphic card into the macbook while staying at the current pricepoint people would think of getting a macbook but not a macbook pro because it would be cheaper, lighter and could handle pro applications... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlmodell Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 $1199+tax expense; just 2 months after $2500+tax for the mac pro. I want to pull the trigger, but i think i should wait for the next refresh and let my stocks earn some spending money, lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027863 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 of course youre right, but the macbook is supposed to do easy tasks, its not a "pro" notebook and the core2duo with 4mb cache plus the intel chip is more then enough still. the macbook pro does have his own graphics card. full stop. and its enough, its good enough. at the moment the macbook serves a different market than the macbook pro. but if you put a graphic card into the macbook while staying at the current pricepoint people would think of getting a macbook but not a macbook pro because it would be cheaper, lighter and could handle pro applications... Well, I give you that. It's just that for me, it's a bit of a let down that it doesn't have a graphic card. Sure even with a dedicated graphic card, it won't be able to render a 3D model in LightWave. But it will help when you're arranging those family photos or playing high definition videos. Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027866 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 just for the record: i know what youre talking about. ;) id also like to have a graphic card in the macbook, would be nice BUT thisone is not bad, its even pretty good and enough for most of us. and of course the macbook is not capable of render 3d models in lightwave but thats what the macbook pro would be there. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 just for the record: i know what youre talking about. ;) id also like to have a graphic card in the macbook, would be nice BUT thisone is not bad, its even pretty good and enough for most of us. and of course the macbook is not capable of render 3d models in lightwave but thats what the macbook pro would be there. :) Indeed :) . Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 were cool? ;) :shiftyninja: anyways, im so freaking gonna get one! :) after waiting like 2 years for the right thing for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588027890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted November 8, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 8, 2006 :laugh: Sorry, but I am just amused how Apple gets criticized for making their PCs too "high end and expensive", and then gets also criticized that their lower-end unit with integrated graphics is criticized for not being "high end enough". Back on-topic, this is a nice update for the MacBook. (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acies Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Cool! so who's going to buy me one? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wicker_man Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 Cool! so who's going to buy me one? No one. You have to bust your butt just like the rest of us if you want it. Forget the pinky world. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 were cool? ;) :shiftyninja: anyways, im so freaking gonna get one! :) after waiting like 2 years for the right thing for me. I never had any problem with you. Just stating my opinion (and dreams for that matter :p ) on my part ;) . So I'm fine with that :D . No one. You have to bust your butt just like the rest of us if you want it. Forget the pinky world. :rofl: Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acies Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 No one. You have to bust your butt just like the rest of us if you want it. Forget the pinky world. what!! you tell me this now!! Here's me thinking I can have anything I want for free! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 8, 2006 Share Posted November 8, 2006 I never had any problem with you. Just stating my opinion (and dreams for that matter :p ) on my part ;) . So I'm fine with that :D . i was just watching that family guy episode where meg gets a band and brian hates the black guy and always says "were cool man" after yelling at him... ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588028296 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacGod Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 Been using the MacBook 1.83 since it came out - no superdrive, intel graphics - no big deal. The Macintosh line is what it is. There is the consumer line and the pro line. There is meant to be a distinction between the two - the low end and the high end. If Apple threw in a crippled ATI 1050 or 1150 (Whatever the low end integrated graphics chip is now) and took out the integrated graphics, then the battery life would suffer a bit more and it would further BLUR the line between the MacBook PROS and the MacBook. Why the heck would I pay extra for a MacBook when I can get the exact same configuration in the MacBook. The only difference between the two systems (if the MacBook had a better, faster graphics chip) would be: 1. FW 800 port 2. larger screen by 2" As for gaming... I am not doing a lot of gaming on my MacBook, but I can play World Of Warcraft on my laptop with acceptable framerates - it isn't stellar, but even the integrated graphics chip does what it needs to. Now - for a 1,000 (or 1,200) - are there many PC laptops that are built that have the specs of the MacBook PRO (my meaning is that the MacBook is the entry level Mac - or highly portable Mac). I love my MacBook. Pumped it out to as much as I could: 2 GB's of RAM (bought on Newegg.com) and 100 GB SATA drive (that was the best price per GB at the time 4 months ago). Now I have a 20" iMac Core Duo and 17" iMac Core 2 Duo - I use those for gaming - and my MacBook for productivity. and for those of you out there straddling the fence - I use a PC too - there are just way too many games for the PC right now and until Apple starts putting the MCE 2005 based DVR functions on Apple Mac OS X, I will continue using the PC... When their FRONT ROW has the ability to record TV (through Apple's software and not 3rd party apps like CatEye and stuff) then I will ditch my PC.... but it still hangs on. Cheers! Bill Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588030731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm starting to think Apple is worse than Microsoft because Apple releases a new processor like every 3 months. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588030778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted November 9, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm starting to think Apple is worse than Microsoft because Apple releases a new processor like every 3 months.:blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588030835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirwode Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 :blink: :blink: :huh: :pinch: :wacko: Scirwode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588030897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted November 9, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 9, 2006 My point was that post didn't make sense. "Coca-Cola is worse than Toyota, because Coca-Cola uses a different sugar supplier like every three days." He was complaining about Apple (a PC hardware-based company) using a different supplier/archetecture for their processors. And contrasting that to Microsoft (a software-based company). Nonsensical post. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toastyone Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 I'm starting to think Apple is worse than Microsoft because Apple releases a new processor like every 3 months. :huh: WTF? Technology is continually changing mate, of course they are going to upgrade their laptops when newer and better stuff comes along?..besides they are not the ones releasing new processors it is Intel. Apple just puts them in their laptops?.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031138 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 second that. totally. ;) anyways, its not actually apple who brings out new technology every "3 months", its intel. ;) PLUS its a good thing, that they pull out new things frequently, because that way you can either stay high tech with enough money or you just keep your old machine, which, and thats (almost) always fact with apple computers, still is amazingly good and buy the newest technology the day you get all your money right. certainly the folks who bought a macbook coreduo like two weeks ago are ****ed but with apple its like... you always HAVE to stay tuned and plan abit. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajputwarrior Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 oh i am getting one of these asap, was waiting for the core 2's :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 although noone might be interested: i will have the money ready like at the end of november or the first two weeks of december. great, infact, the days get shorter, the nights longer, i literally see me sitting on my bed, enjoying a hot cup of even hotter chocolate, the macbook on my legs hopefully getting not so hot, rain or snow or darkness outside, exploreing the greatness of mac osx and my brand new freaking macbook! i didnt have a notebook for like 3 years now and i so missed it. awwww i am so ****ing looking forward to that!! sorry. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aragorn Posted November 9, 2006 Share Posted November 9, 2006 And I was complaining about waiting for a paycheck to get a new Macbook! Now I'm glad I waited two! Duo 2 here I come! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/510423-apple-releases-updated-macbook/page/2/#findComment-588031377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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