Chicane-UK Veteran Posted November 18, 2006 Veteran Share Posted November 18, 2006 The university I work at has got Vista and Office Enterprise 2007 through volume licensing.. i'd not even looked at a review of Office before I tried it and I have to say its a weeeee bit of a departure looks wise from previous versions! I didn't know where to begin with using it! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abc124 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 just asked google, and here is the link to psyco_x university :-) (i hope it's the right one) http://elms.e-academy.com/uiuc/index.cfm?l...ID_Product=2435 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProclaimDragon Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Does the website layout/design can be changed by the program administrator? Cause mine is a lot different from that one: http://msdn60.e-academy.com/elms/Storefron...362&np1=112 The links seem somewhat different too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrastudent Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 Does the website layout/design can be changed by the program administrator? Cause mine is a lot different from that one: http://msdn60.e-academy.com/elms/Storefron...362&np1=112 The links seem somewhat different too... IME most MSDNAA sites have the domain msdnXX.e-academy.com like yours. I guess schools can customize if they want by setting up a site with blah.e-academy.com, rather than use a default Microsoft-designed msdnXX.e-academy.com site. Edit: Oh, looks like the msdnXX.e-academy.com sites only offer Microsoft software. If you want to offer more than that I guess you have to set up a new site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProclaimDragon Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 yeah, I only have Microsoft software, the other one has lots of other companies software too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 18, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 18, 2006 Is it? There are more desktop users than businesses. That alone should say enough. Businesses run the same software and hardware for all their machines (for the most part). On the other hand, your neighbor's desktop pc probably has significantly different hardware and software specs. Think about what kinds of things desktop users do. Upgrading video cards, a new wireless mouse, new soundcards, webcams, physics cards, testing shareware/freeware software (constantly installing/uninstalling) and so on. Desktop users do it all the time, businesses don't. They plan and set up what they will use for software and hardware at the beginning. Even if you mean home users by saying desktop, you are still wrong. Businesses use a lot more PC's and a lot more diverse software and hardware. Just ask your self a quistion: "who has more money to spend, companies or families?" or "what is the most significant source of income for Microsoft: businesses (Windows Server and Pro and all other software that they make which targets businesses) or Families (Windows Home)?. Clearly, Microsoft makes more money off of other companies. But that's going a little off topic. Home PC usage centers around multimedia. Now think about all the programs businesses use, the span is huge (accounting, financial, marketing, database, programming, content creation (video, audio, web publishing), security,...I could go on and on). Have you done some 3D modelling lately with 3D Max? or maybe architectural/engineering design with AutoCAD? (btw, check the prices for these @ www.autodesk.com, its two-three thousand dollars each). Now back to your statement: due to the fact that consumers use many more devices and software than businesses It was naive to assume that, but that's ok, you can't know everything and we learn somethign new everyday, right? ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 My university only lists a few products on MSDNAA: Access 2003 Project 2002 and 2003 Visio 2003 and 2003 Windows XP Pro Windows 2003 Standard Windows 2003 Enterprise Visual Studio 2003 Visual Studio 2005 MSDN Library No sign of Vista! :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 My university only lists a few products on MSDNAA: Access 2003 Project 2002 and 2003 Visio 2003 and 2003 Windows XP Pro Windows 2003 Standard Windows 2003 Enterprise Visual Studio 2003 Visual Studio 2005 MSDN Library No sign of Vista! :( we've got alot more on our uni's AA, got quite a few version of windows , such as XP pro with SP1, XP pro with SP2 , XP pro without SP etc so in theiry you can download all these separate version and key 3 valid keys to use :) looks exactly like this http://msdn60.e-academy.com/elms/Storefron...362&np1=112 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyko_x Posted November 18, 2006 Author Share Posted November 18, 2006 Even if you mean home users by saying desktop, you are still wrong. Businesses use a lot more PC's and a lot more diverse software and hardware. Just ask your self a quistion: "who has more money to spend, companies or families?" or "what is the most significant source of income for Microsoft: businesses (Windows Server and Pro and all other software that they make which targets businesses) or Families (Windows Home)?. Clearly, Microsoft makes more money off of other companies. But that's going a little off topic. Home PC usage centers around multimedia. Now think about all the programs businesses use, the span is huge (accounting, financial, marketing, database, programming, content creation (video, audio, web publishing), security,...I could go on and on). Have you done some 3D modelling lately with 3D Max? or maybe architectural/engineering design with AutoCAD? (btw, check the prices for these @ www.autodesk.com, its two-three thousand dollars each). Now back to your statement: It was naive to assume that, but that's ok, you can't know everything and we learn somethign new everyday, right? ;) Um, no. I said businesses use industry standard software and you simply reinforced that that giving me some examples like 3d MAX and AutoCAD. Businesses aren't able to choose from 100+ CAD software or 100+ 3d modeling software like 3D MAX. There truly are a handful of standards used in any industry. For every piece of software you list for me I can easily list twice as many that home users might use, but businesses don't. For example, I could go to download.com or betanews.com and copy and paste the names of the software they have for download: Duplicate File Detector 1.9 November 17 - 5:21 PM ET Powerful tool to search for file duplicates on your computer AVS DVD Player 2.2.7.105 November 17 - 4:57 PM ET Start watching DVD movies with no additional software CSS Spy 1.0 RC1 November 17 - 5:20 PM ET Cascade style sheet editor Web Research (formerly ContentSaver) Professional 2.6.3412 November 17 - 4:42 PM ET Stores and organizes Web content for archiving and later viewing KeyCue 2.1 November 17 - 5:19 PM ET Find, learn, and remember menu shortcuts TaskFiles 1.1 November 17 - 4:41 PM ET Find what that unknown application is doing on your system and what files its using PopChar Win 2.2 November 17 - 5:17 PM ET Type special characters without keyboard combos mIRC Power Pack 8.00 RC9 November 17 - 4:35 PM ET Powerful full script for mIRC designed for gamers PopChar X 3.0 November 17 - 5:15 PM ET Lets you insert special characters, accented and foreign letters into your documents Romeo Burner 1.0 RC1 November 17 - 4:13 PM ET Delicate CD/DVD composer and burner perfectly integrated in Windows Explorer Typinator 1.5 November 17 - 5:14 PM ET Automates typing of frequently used text and pictures gView 1.1 November 17 - 3:56 PM ET Small image viewer program That's a quick little example from betanews. They of course don't have every piece of software desktop users might use so once I run out of software to list from that site, I could find more on Tucows, download.com, softpedia, etc. Also, you may have forgotten to think about how many PC games there are and how businesses just don't run any of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemo Posted November 18, 2006 Share Posted November 18, 2006 .NET Component Update CD .NET Framework 1.1 SDK Access 2003 Exchange Server 2000 Enterprise Edition Exchange Server 2003 Enterprise Edition InfoPath 2003 InfoPath 2003 Toolkit for Visual Studio Tools for Office 2005 Macro Assembler 6.11 MapPoint 2004 European - Run Disc (2/2) MapPoint 2004 European - Setup Disc (1/2) MapPoint 2004 North America - Run Disc (2/2) MapPoint 2004 North America - Setup Disc (1/2) MELL - Developer Edition for MSDNAA MSDN Library (Visual Studio .NET) CD1 ISO (Jan 2004) MSDN Library (Visual Studio .NET) CD2 ISO (Jan 2004) MSDN Library (Visual Studio .NET) CD3 ISO (Jan 2004) MSDN Library (Visual Studio .NET) Full (Jan 2004) MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD1 MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD2 MSDN Library - May 2006 - CD3 MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD1 MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD2 MSDN Library for Visual Studio 2005 - CD3 MSDN Subscriptions Library (Full) Office FrontPage 2003 OneNote 2003 Project Professional 2002 (Single-User) Project Professional 2003 Project Server 2003 SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition SQL Server 2000 Enterprise Edition SQL Server 2000 SP3a SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 32-bit - CD1 SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 32-bit - CD2 SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD1 SQL Server 2005 Developer Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD2 SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - CD1 SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - CD2 SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 32-bit - DVD SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD1 SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - CD2 SQL Server 2005 Standard Edition - 64-bit Extended - DVD SQL Server 2005 Workgroup Edition - 32-bit - DVD Virtual PC 2004 Visio for Enterprise Architects Visio Professional 2002 (Single User) Visio Professional 2003 Visual Basic 2005 Express Edition Visual C# 2005 Express Edition Visual C++ 2005 Express Edition Visual J# .NET Visual J# 2005 Express Edition Visual SourceSafe 6.0d Visual Studio .NET 2003 Professional - Full Install Visual Studio .NET 2005 Professional - Full Install Visual Studio .NET Academic Student Tools 2003 Visual Studio .NET Academic Teaching Tools 2003 Visual Studio .NET Pro 2002 - ISO Image - CD1 Visual Studio .NET Pro 2002 - ISO Image - CD2 Visual Studio .NET Pro 2002 - ISO Image - CD3 Visual Studio .NET Pro 2002 - ISO Image - CD4 Visual Studio .NET Pro 2002 - ISO Image - CD5 Visual Studio .NET Professional 2002 (Full) Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 - CD1 Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 - CD2 Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 CD1 ISO Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 CD2 ISO Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 Prerequisites Disc Visual Studio .NET Professional 2003 Prerequisites ISO Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition CD1 Visual Studio 2005 Professional Edition CD2 Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition CD1 Visual Studio 2005 Standard Edition CD2 Visual Studio 2005 Team Foundation Server Trial Edition Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD1 Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD2 Visual Studio 2005 Team Suite - CD3 Visual Studio 2005 Tools for the Microsoft Office System Visual Studio 6 Pro - Disc 1 Visual Studio 6 Pro - Disc 2 Visual Web Developer 2005 Express Edition Windows 2000 Advanced Server (with SP4) Windows 2000 Professional (with SP4) Windows 2000 Server (with SP4) Windows 2000 SP 4 Windows 98 Second Edition Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 1 Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 2 Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 3 Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 4 Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 5 Windows CE .NET 4.2 Disc 6 Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition - Disc 1 Windows Server 2003 R2 Enterprise x64 Edition - Disc 2 Windows Server 2003 Standard Edition Windows Server 2003 Web Edition Windows Services for UNIX 3.0 Windows XP Embedded Windows XP Professional (Single User) Windows XP Professional (Single User) 64bit Edition Windows XP Professional with SP2 (Single User) ISO Image This is what is available for my school... No Vista yet :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mirumir Subscriber¹ Posted November 18, 2006 Subscriber¹ Share Posted November 18, 2006 (edited) Also, you may have forgotten to think about how many PC games there are and how businesses just don't run any of those. That's it, you nailed it! They run software and hardware to create those instead :p And it takes a lot more than one programe to create one game :D If you still can't agree that businesses use more software, (and that's exactly why businesses got thier hands on vista first, to prepare their products for Vista internally and externally for Vista's consumer launch - something that you were so upset in your original post) then I'm sorry for you... Edited November 18, 2006 by Zhivago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyko_x Posted November 19, 2006 Author Share Posted November 19, 2006 That's it, you nailed it! They run software and hardware to create those instead :p And it takes a lot more than one programe to create one game :D If you still can't agree that businesses use more software, (and that's exactly why businesses got thier hands on vista first, to prepare their products for Vista internally and externally for Vista's consumer launch - something that you were so upset in your original post) then I'm sorry for you... lol ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usefulidiot127 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm from UIUC as well as it looks like some of you guys are. I was pretty disappointed to see the latest message they have up for the Vista download. They better get that straightened out soon and up for us. I hope the information wasn't completely false that they would have it last friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm from UIUC as well as it looks like some of you guys are. I was pretty disappointed to see the latest message they have up for the Vista download. They better get that straightened out soon and up for us. I hope the information wasn't completely false that they would have it last friday. I'm guessing its because of all the extra traffic from the ****ing beta testers on connect that forced ms to not put it up yet on msdnaa and take it down on msdn till all the current downloaders are done or something. I wish they released it to the beta testers AFTER us msdn and msdnaa users all got it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrastudent Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm guessing its because of all the extra traffic from the ****ing beta testers on connect that forced ms to not put it up yet on msdnaa and take it down on msdn till all the current downloaders are done or something. I wish they released it to the beta testers AFTER us msdn and msdnaa users all got it... Microsoft does not host MSDNAA downloads, the colleges themselves host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Microsoft does not host MSDNAA downloads, the colleges themselves host. Yes but the colleges have to download the iso's from microsoft before they can host it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 I'm seeing nothing on mine yet. Does anyone in the UK have a notice similar to the UIUC one, or have it available yet? This would be a very good Christmas present from Microsoft to University students around the world :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huy Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 It'll be out before xmas. Probably by early December they'll have it ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrastudent Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Yes but the colleges have to download the iso's from microsoft before they can host it... A couple hundred downloads is nothing for Microsoft's bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilhanth Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hey, I don't really care when we get it. As long as we do get it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 A couple hundred downloads is nothing for Microsoft's bandwidth. Obviously something DID affect their bandwidth if you have read the reports of people getting low speeds while downloading off msdn. How do you explain microsoft pulling vista off msdn? Please shut your mouth before you make yourself look anyworse. Oh and heres a link just incase you can't find it for yourself: https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=513720 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_1 Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Aw **** god damnit, it says Jan 1 now on the uiuc site..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrastudent Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Crap, I won't be a student after December! :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarStorm Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Crap, I won't be a student after December! :angry: :rofl: :rofl: Im hopin Norwich will get Vista pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeroday Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Hmm...I still have to ask my uni about this. Gonna ask about it tomorrow :woot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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