The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 2, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 2, 2006 I think the 360 launched in September or something, we got it in March the next year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588101796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
diso25 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 People who bash the WGA remember: MS have the right to install any software that helps prevent copyright infringement. It's all in the EULA. So that class lawsuit won't work. The judge will simply throw the Windows EULA at whoever started the suit. Hence I would do the same if I spent years working on a good operating system only to have it stolen and put out on bittorrent with cracks. Piracy DOES hurt Microsoft. Remember MS is a huge company and money goes to the department of whichever the money was used to buy for, so if you bought Windows, money would go to the Windows department. Yes, therefore it's MS's but it's used for that department. So if you keep pirating, Windows department won't have enough to keep it going thus the end of Windows would loom. I spent years working on a good operating system Im sure but microsoft did not create OSX. They created crapy windows, last I heard we still get BLUE SCREEN, and lest not mention SPYWARE, and all that other CRAPPPPP Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588101861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aero Ultimate Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 This kind of report won't help them in thier "fight" against piracy. What a fcking rip off. http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/98967/brits-to...ffice-2007.html Is it any wonder why people used pirate copies when M$ are ripping people off. All the pirates are doing is ripping them off? Those prices are obscene. "Only" 70% more in the UK? It's even worse in Germany, the German Amazon already released the prices (update/full version). Most versions are nearly twice as expensive! :crazy: That's already ludicrously obscene! Windows Vista Home Basic: 139€ ($185)/259€ ($345) -> 87%/73% more Windows Vista Home Premium: 229€ ($305)/329€ ($438) -> 92%/83% more Windows Vista Business: 279€ ($372)/419€ ($558) -> 87%/87% more Windows Vista Ultimate: 349€ ($465)/549€ ($731) -> 80%/83% more Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588102174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busman401 Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 I think it has been established that WGA does give false warnings to paying customers and if anyone says different they are just plain wrong. That being said, how does a paying corp. customer such as myself eliminate this problem short of a reinstall? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588102912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quillz Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I admit that I've run pirated copies of Windows and Office in the past, but now I have legit copies on all my computers. Even when I ran a pirated copy, though, I never had any issues with WGA whatsoever. It's within every right for Microsoft to protect their intellectual property. I'd do the same. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588104960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhnz Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Obviously not :rolleyes: Looks like piracy is really "hurting" M$ :rolleyes: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6191812.stm If they don't use anti-piracy measures they will get an increase in piracy and a large loss in sales. This will result in lower revenues. They've got to keep up the fight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588105264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 If they don't use anti-piracy measures they will get an increase in piracy and a large loss in sales. This will result in lower revenues. They've got to keep up the fight. Yeah but how many people actually buy retail Windows? I would assume most of their profits are from OEM and business sales. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588105283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I don't have an issue with WGA on my own system however I have annoying gripes about the license of Windows XP in general the way that Microsoft go about forcing WGA updates on consumers, how you must call them on the telephone to activate your copy of Windows XP, how you cant just forever transfer your copy of Windows XP from 1 computer to another and the price of Windows in general is day light robbery. They make me annoyed but they own most of the market and although how they did that is up for debate I am practically forced to use Windows XP because of the applications I use demand it. Overall Windows (XP & Vista) are not great and we get a raw deal as consumers ripped off in every way possible. Anyway I'm running Windows XP MCE. Reluctantly. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588105367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper101 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Yeah but how many people actually buy retail Windows? I would assume most of their profits are from OEM and business sales. I second that :) OEM is one of microsoft strong points :) Anyway i have never had a problem with WGA nor is notifications 1 reason i dont have it installed :blink: is there really any need of it when there are plenty of alternatives? But you will get the odd person complaining about it :) well if you can't live with WGA switch OS they even state that you have the choice to install it or not and say in there disclaimer if you dont agree to the terms set discontinue to use the software or don't install it sooo. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588105388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelpixel Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 With vista they will be able to switch off so called doggy installs. So my point is quite simple if I buy something / vista when does it become mine ? :huh: Name any other thing that you buy (Car, Food, House) that after you buy it, it wants to make sure that you had. If you look at how much games (Gears Of War) and films (King Kong) cost to make compare these to how much it takes for software. Yet we feel its right to pay for over priced software that one day could be removed from us! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/517510-microsofts-revamped-wga-puts-burden-on-users/page/3/#findComment-588105483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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