Wyco Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 the boxes on the top.. seems like have been mirrored.. the top left and top right.. good point. also the top mid one. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nisse_bisse Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I think these different puzzles will get the same key... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trevahaha Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Yeah, I'm sure. What is that packet sniffer that is open source and the name starts with an "e"? This has been killing me trying to find it. It's a good sniffer :p Maybe I'm wrong about the "e" thing. Or the open-source thing. But it definitely does not run the native Windows GUI. Uses an "overlay" (much like Java, GTK, etc) I think you're refering to Ethereal http://www.ethereal.com/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 right after studying the animation there - there are 10 letters that do not appear in the next picture ZENPH and CJMRO (not in any special order) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adis Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I think the puzzle has just now been made solvable and when we solve this one the third one will also change. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maygaess Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I think these different puzzles will get the same key... if they give the same answer.. then shouldnt we analyze the letter that are fixed and forget the changing ones ?[ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymgve Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Even though it had two errors, I managed to solve the Picross puzzle. When you follow the "path" from the right border to the top one, you get this quote: "it was cearly over his head the monk who screwed up the transliteration samt ar-ras" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyco Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 if they give the same answer.. then shouldnt we analyze the letter that are fixed and forget the changing ones ?[ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Even though it had two errors, I managed to solve the Picross puzzle. When you follow the "path" from the right border to the top one, you get this quote: "it was cearly over his head the monk who screwed up the transliteration samt ar-ras" It Was Clearly Over His Head The Monk Who Screwed Up The Tranliterationsamt? AR-RAS Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 ^ Thats an interesting quote lol. I have been following along with this thread (read all 23 pages) good work guys I would never have figured any of this out lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.F. Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 {you changing stuff image here} Here is the letter changes graph. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162353 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveLegg Developer Posted December 24, 2006 Developer Share Posted December 24, 2006 Even though it had two errors, I managed to solve the Picross puzzle. When you follow the "path" from the right border to the top one, you get this quote: "it was cearly over his head the monk who screwed up the transliteration samt ar-ras" I got that too, I just spend a while scanning it in from the paper I did it on and discussing it with rob, so you beat me to posting :p confirms its the right answer though :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Veteran Posted December 24, 2006 Author Veteran Share Posted December 24, 2006 Wow, good work ymgve!! Now to see if we can turn that into a code somehow! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTimOnY Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 samt ar-ras thats from arabian which translates to (literally) "way or path over the head". however, it was originally translated as sanit arr-as by some dude. i think we need the name of this guy. (i guess he was a monk) edited for spelling Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 The most famous mistake of a monk was that one made an error in translating the name of "god" from Hebrew. He translated the Hebrew into Jehovah, when the closest would have been YHWH (Yahweh) I don't know if this is whats being referred to, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.F. Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Even though it had two errors, I managed to solve the Picross puzzle. When you follow the "path" from the right border to the top one, you get this quote: "it was cearly over his head the monk who screwed up the transliteration samt ar-ras" From wiki:Transliteration is the practice of transcribing a word or text written in one writing system into another writing system. It is also the system of rules for that practice. Technically, from a linguistic point of view, it is a mapping from one system of writing into another. Transliteration attempts to be lossless, so that an informed reader should be able to reconstruct the original spelling of unknown transliterated words. Look for stuff that sounds like "samt ar-ras". I stumbled upon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arras Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymgve Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 It is also possible the quote is supposed to be "it was clearly over his head the monk who screwed up the transliterations amt ar-ras" - so the last part is "amt ar-ras" without the first S. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adis Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Here is also samething on ar-ras: Ar-ras 2-nd directory http://vanishingpointgame.com/zenith/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTimOnY Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Here is also samething on ar-ras: Ar-ras 2-nd directory http://vanishingpointgame.com/zenith/ sweet. one step closer we are. I tried entering zenith into the key box, but never thought of it being a folder. heh. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 ffs i knew it - "Fewer than a thousand people have ever been there to see the ultimate vista. The grand prize winner will be one of them." Ultimate Vista... *sighs* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knaibesu Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Has anyone placed any time in figuring out the numbers at the bottom? I tried ordering them and got an interesting result. I'm sure it's somehow related. 215936162 turns into 112235669 142966259 turns into 122456699 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
maygaess Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 i think the whole thing has to do with windows vista.. as of the directory "zenith" message Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adis Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Oh my god and I thought it would be like the uncovering of the secrets of the universe or something. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 i think the whole thing has to do with windows vista.. as of the directory "zenith" message Yeah looks like it to me too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spex04 Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Oh my god and I thought it would be like the uncovering of the secrets of the universe or something. :rofl: There's still the other puzzle to solve though... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/14/#findComment-588162400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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