episode Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Seem's Microsoft arent just being cryptic with this http://windowsconnected.com/photos/blog_pi...0/original.aspx Who says its the same thing? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Who says its the same thing? Nobody I just implied that Microsoft seem to like being cryptic just now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
novastar Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 back to the puzzle... I am trying to see if the numbers are are some kind of check sum type thing. noticed that 2 stayed the same after the change, anybody think this is a waste of time? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Seem's Microsoft arent just being cryptic with this http://windowsconnected.com/photos/blog_pi...0/original.aspx Thats probably just something related to "EVO" - Exchange Server 2007, Windows Vista, and Microsoft Office, which are marketed to "work better together". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnTimOnY Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 OK im having an idea but am not sure. It asks for who is loki. in a convulted way. well, he's a foster borther of Odin. and Odin is considered the chief god in Norse mythology. So, if Odin is the last one (from the end), then Loki is second to last, the (penultimate). Im thinking it may have something to do with his names or whtever he did or something from mythology. Ok, enough of my idea, I'll just go back to reading wikipedia about loki... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 OK im having an idea but am not sure. It asks for who is loki. in a convulted way. well, he's a foster borther of Odin. and Odin is considered the chief god in Norse mythology. So, if Odin is the last one (from the end), then Loki is second to last, the (penultimate). Im thinking it may have something to do with his names or whtever he did or something from mythology. Ok, enough of my idea, I'll just go back to reading wikipedia about loki... Perhaps it has something to do with names of the Gods of Norse mythology? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Cool Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Perhaps it has something to do with names of the Gods of Norse mythology? so who is the third from last (the antepenultimate)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A1li_(son_of_Loki) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_ Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 so who is the third from last (the antepenultimate)? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norse_mythology Im probably wrong but look at the section called "The beginning". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soham Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 i am confused about the grid Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
novastar Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) another note on the puzzle... the digits are the same in the old and new, but the numbers are reordered. I think this means that only letters common to both puzzles are important (even if they are in a different spot in the second) and I think there should be some way of determining the counting system based on the order of the digits and the corresponding changes in the grid I think this might be able to be used to throw away letters somehow EDIT: digits aren't acutally the same ..oops... 1,3-->4,9 Edited December 24, 2006 by novastar Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gliscameria Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I'm assuming Loki is referring to the LOKI block cipher Has anyone tried the original message - rpf6ncada34wget32-84 kvezz1x6cfp0egnyvm32 z3o6qj-o3ddwn3;u-loe Using ; as a break and u-loe as key I know nothing about ciphers by the way. I saw some source code out there though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162723 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Okies working through that initial grid from wh0isl0ki I started at a parent and worked through the dependants. Box 1 Unique Path Combos LB LC LS QBUS QB QBUB QN RC RN Finals = B, C, N, S Box 2 Unique Path Combos COBP CNBP CNEP CNJI CI ZJI ZEP Finals: I, P Box 3 Unique Path Combos IRD IOD IGBOD IGBISOD IGBISJD Finals: D Box 4 Unique Path Combos JY JZ GCOY GCOZ UROZ UROY UZ GROZ GROY DY DCOZ DCOY Finals: Y, Z Box 5 Unique Path Combos YE YJAR NUAR NJAR NRME MNJAR Finals: E, R Box 6 Unique Path Combos RAI RABN RN RII RS NII NS DN DS BN BAI Finals: I, N, S Box 7 Unique Path Combos NS NBP RUP RDJUP RDJBP RDJS RDCS Finals: P,S Box 8 Unique Path Combos IHY IHSR IOY IOD IHD IHUR Finals : D, R, Y Box 9 Unique Path Combos JIM JY YOY YPY YS YOAM YOIM YOAS Finals : M, S, Y If you dont understand where im coming from with this - look at the top left box and the letter R - no other conjoining letter points INTO it - so i start there and listed all the possible path comibnations. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted December 24, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 24, 2006 That's what I was thinking of doing, but I'm too tired to work on it right now :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 heh well you know what they say about working together etc- me and Antomony are on skype chatting about this - welcome to join us if you pm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigapixels Veteran Posted December 24, 2006 Veteran Share Posted December 24, 2006 Thanks, but I'm actually about to get some sleep... I've been working early because of the holiday season. I'll check this thread as much as possible though. Hopefully you guys will get it as I'm really curious. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162760 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 lol no worries - just getting my caffiene boost and getting back on it. This is just the tip of the iceberg with the main game obviously about to start on january 8th Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonRedMk Member Posted December 24, 2006 Member Share Posted December 24, 2006 I took emale_tart's idea ... but took it in a different direction... I found the letters pretty much the same way, except opposite (arrows in opposite directions...hard to explain) these are my results: 1- RLQ 2- CZ 3- I 4- JDGU 5- NY 6- DBRN 7- NR 8- I 9- YJ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 arghhh my heads mashed, handing the baton to the night shift..great work tonight you lot :D Night night all :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymgve Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 (edited) NEW LINK! http://vanishingpointgame.com/biography/ edit: I partially solved the Sudoku puzzle, and got the first letters. I got the idea from earlier in this thread, about the arrows being greater than/less than signs. If you completely remove the letters, and only contentrate on the greater than/lesser than, it's possible to recreate the Sudoku puzzle. When you've done that, you use the numbers in the lower right to "map" it to the puzzle. To explain better, this is my sudoku grid after some a few tries: 292 ... .1. .1. ... 92. ... 921 ... .2. 1.. ..9 1.. ..9 2.2 ..9 2.. ..1 2.. ..2 19. ..1 .9. ..2 9.2 .12 2.. Now, take the number in the lower right, which was 142966259 - out of the grid, I got b_og_____, and as I looked at the upper right corner, I realized that "biography" matched and had letters in all the correct sections. Edited December 24, 2006 by ymgve Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonhead Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 I tried actually writing the numbers on the bottom in the boxes and got OIJNBURONOYS Which i unscrambled as JOINOURBOYS + an N lol or JOINYOURSON + a B good way to waste some time i guess Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ausasuke Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Okies working through that initial grid from wh0isl0ki I started at a parent and worked through the dependants. Box 1 Unique Path Combos LB LC LS QBUS QB QBUB QN RC RN Finals = B, C, N, S Box 2 Unique Path Combos COBP CNBP CNEP CNJI CI ZJI ZEP Finals: I, P Box 3 Unique Path Combos IRD IOD IGBOD IGBISOD IGBISJD Finals: D Box 4 Unique Path Combos JY JZ GCOY GCOZ UROZ UROY UZ GROZ GROY DY DCOZ DCOY Finals: Y, Z Box 5 Unique Path Combos YE YJAR NUAR NJAR NRME MNJAR Finals: E, R Box 6 Unique Path Combos RAI RABN RN RII RS NII NS DN DS BN BAI Finals: I, N, S Box 7 Unique Path Combos NS NBP RUP RDJUP RDJBP RDJS RDCS Finals: P,S Box 8 Unique Path Combos IHY IHSR IOY IOD IHD IHUR Finals : D, R, Y Box 9 Unique Path Combos JIM JY YOY YPY YS YOAM YOIM YOAS Finals : M, S, Y If you dont understand where im coming from with this - look at the top left box and the letter R - no other conjoining letter points INTO it - so i start there and listed all the possible path comibnations. Hey, yeah i was doing exactly the same thing with the puzzle, I tried something that probably has nothing to do with it lol, But i used the Final letters from each box, then taking the number from the bottom of the page, 142966259 i tried using the finals corresponding to those boxes. Which gave me BCNS YZ IP MSY INS INS YZ ER MSY I tried to arrange that into words, the most i could get was sorta simon says SYIMINZES - proably just a coincidence, anyone able to do anything with it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emale_tart Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 How did you get the url for the biography page ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 on that biography link, its a 9 letter word, and all the letters appear in both versions of the suduko, so i'd assume that is supposed to be the answer to that one Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
icec Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Couple things jump out at me on the bio page... Regarding space: 'escape' = escape velocity, etc 'without prize money' = xprize competition lots of references to mathematic constants (pi, golden ratio) and fractals? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/523893-the-pre-game-fun/page/17/#findComment-588162803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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