AlphaPrime Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Except demand really isn't there. There was an interview with Peter Moore a little while back where he even states that there are honestly very few people that own 360's that care about HDMI. Thing is, those few are making theirselves very loud and very clear (magik :p). Despite that, it'd still be nice of MS to introduce an HDMI option, even with little demand, as it is a kind of future-proofing, since things are heading the way of the HD-era anyways. Well it's hard to measure demand, but I mean pretty much all new large HDTVs come with HDMI these days and it's beomming the standard for the next few years, so it would make sense to start including it. I can see class action lawsuits or some other uproar of similar stature happening if this is the case. I doubt it, mainly because people bought the Xbox 360 knowing what outputs it includes and which it doesn't. Microsoft never advertised it as including HDMI so there's nothing people can do about it really. It might suck for existing owners, if true, but many companys do it to their products. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
filter04 Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Good. That means I have reason to keep calling bs on this until I see it, which is what I think everyone should be doing. Seriously, something from Xbox-scene, a renowned modding community shouldn't be considered official. It'd probably make their day to mod an HDMI port into a 360 even if the system doesn't work anymore.-Spenser Surely it isn't that far-fetched to think that Microsoft are releasing a newer, slightly updated version of their 360? Microsoft are now making a profit on the 360's they sell. Many tech sites have also reported that a new, 65nm version of the Xbox 360 is planned. Now that two consoles have been released after it, it is probable that Microsoft's sales of the 360 have calmed down. A new, updated Xbox 360 could help to revitalize their sales. Plus, they never did release that HDMI cable for the current 360. If that isn't possible due to the scaler chip only supporting analog, then a new scaler chip that is digital makes sense. Filter04. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenser.d Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) Meh. It doesn't matter to me in the end, since I don't need the extra space or the HDMI, but it's getting blown way out of proportion for being a leaked picture. Wait until MS says something, then blow it out of proportion. -Spenser Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Anthony Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Are you guys really THAT shocked ? This is Microsoft !!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGSPro Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Gee, apple releases a new ipod every year or so and people praise them for being so innovative. Nintendo even does it! how many gameboy advances are there now? We're on #2 DS as well. Microsoft does the same thin and everyone is in an uproar. Just trade your dang 360 to gamestop, or ebay it when the new one comes out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbandonedTrolley Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 As long as Microsoft offer a way that current Xbox's can output to HDMI then the extra port makes no difference. Although would kinda make it strange that if it's possible with the current set up, then why add the port anyways. :hmmm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I'd say with almost 100% certainty that there will NOT be an HDMI cable for the current 360.The reason why? There aren't enough pins on the connector free to handle an HDMI output. How big of a difference is HDMI over Component? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
S a i f Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...kVpwzemjZKk.php Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198476 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 How big of a difference is HDMI over Component? To me, it's a pretty big difference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198481 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Me thinks this is true now. The new pictures and video aswell as spartan's reluctancy to say yes or no (for obivous reasons) and his little hints lol, and MS not denying it (surely if it was fake they would deny it, as atm, people who want a 360 will be holding off just to see what happens). OT - can't remeber who said it, but I agree, its nice to have an MS employee here. Gives the "evil empire" a human face lol. So a thumbs up to spartan lol. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsbury Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) 'Except you're still inisstent on the Universal AV out not being configurable. As Spartan allready said, the Xbox is mostly software run, and I'm pretty sure that includes the universal out, and that it can be set so that when you hook up a plug with a HDMI cable, the AV out chip that provides the signals for the Universal AV out, can be reconfigured for the pins required by the HDMI. and that includes switching from analog video signals to digital. I'm not insisting anything, all I am saying is that that is not how the current cable works. You're guessing that it is configurable. I'm guessing that each output pin is hardwired to the video chip as in a PC video card. You could be right, I could be right. Who knows. Edit: As people have rightly said, if it's possible, why isn't there an HDMI lead out already? The 'no demand' answer doesn't really cut it, as every proper HD set has at least one HDMI, and they have brought out VGA, Composite, Component already. There's bound to be a demand for HDMI, if even to reduce cable clutter. Edited January 6, 2007 by Pilsbury Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samboini Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...kVpwzemjZKk.php The video is convincing enough for me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootWind Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Nothing really surprising with adding HDMI. I doubt they will add the 120gb as a default option unless MS suddenly found an unused warehouse full of 120gb HDDs/they don't want to make profit anymore on their console. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
trix Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 totally skipping the hdmi predicament here (i don't own a hdtv :pinch:) about the new hdd, - if it's real, how would we transfer game saves, media, xbla games, and other stuff from our old hdd to the new one? (if the hdd thing is true, i most probably will get it at some point) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samboini Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 trix, maybe through usb? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) Mods on Official Xbox 360 forum deleted all the related threads! To me, it's a pretty big difference. I will have to Judge for myself, but I wish someone can direct me a comparasion online right now? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashing Pumpkin Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 If they were to make transfer of data possible via usb cables HDD to HDD, just a guess but, wouldn't that make it possible (or easier) to put music onto it that wasn't purchased on a CD. I would definately feel bad if they brought out an ultimate version and I have the old core version lol. Would the ultimate have a golden disc drive plate :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198872 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 I'm pleased Spartan is he cos he provides us with so much information.Also it's just good to have a MS guy online with us, feels kind of personal, I dunno, I like it. hehehe... thanks! :blush: :hug: OT - can't remeber who said it, but I agree, its nice to have an MS employee here. Gives the "evil empire" a human face lol. So a thumbs up to spartan lol. that's cuz you can put a human face on a company you want to bitch at... :laugh: :rofl: :p anyways, Bill will give is pre-show keynote tomorrow. click here for more details. :happy: :yes: Pre-show Keynote Address6:30 p.m. Sunday, January 7, 2007, The Venetian, Palazzo Ballroom Bill Gates Chairman, Microsoft Corp. Bill Gates returns to CES for his ninth pre-show keynote address. Under Gates' leadership, Microsoft has continually advanced and improved software technology. With the full attention of the consumer technology world, Gates has previously used the International CES to preview products and technology on the horizon for consumers. Microsoft's previous product debuts at CES include consumer technologies such as the Xbox, Tablet PC and eBook. btw... I think this is going to be Bill's last keynote at CES, I'm gonna miss him... he's a really nice person a great inspiration for many people... :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdsams Veteran Posted January 6, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 6, 2007 hehehe... thanks! :blush: :hug:that's cuz you can put a human face on a company you want to bitch at... :laugh: :rofl: :p anyways, Bill will give is pre-show keynote tomorrow. click here for more details. :happy: :yes: btw... I think this is going to be Bill's last keynote at CES, I'm gonna miss him... he's a really nice person a great inspiration for many people... :cry: boo to bill leaving, although what he is doing with his money goes above and beyond another keynote speech....hats off to him though Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted January 6, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 6, 2007 I'd say what MS will do: Drop the core console. Release updated premium with HDMI for $299. 120GB HDD separate buy-on. Catch the market. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588198981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 (edited) Well that video looked pretty real to me, the question is now what happens to all of us who bought it before the HDMI port? Edit: will there be a live stream from Bills keynote? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588199050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdverseDeviant Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 the question is now what happens to all of us who bought it before the HDMI port? you're screwed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588199063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novaoblivion Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 you're screwed. Yes unfortunately you are probably right :cry:. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588199087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chanser Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Cough up the dough for the HDMI version or hope for MS to have a upgrade package. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588199124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aahz Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 You are only getting screwed if you see this thing coming down the pipeline and you don't sell your current 360 right now while you can still get a decent price for it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/10/#findComment-588199128 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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