Novaoblivion Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) WHAT IF Microsoft would exchange your 360 for a HDMI 360 for a small upgrade fee? What would you think of that? I just thought of the idea, and I doubt they would do this, but if they did, would you be willing to pay about the price of a 360 game to upgrade?I wouldn't mind spending some extra money, however, I have nothing that uses HDMI so it doesn't matter too much for me. By the time I upgrade from 720p to 1080p, I'm sure more of these tv's will support 1080p via VGA. This would be perfectly acceptable to me even though I doubt they would do it, I just want HDMI! :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588200522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 WHAT IF Microsoft would exchange your 360 for a HDMI 360 for a small upgrade fee? What would you think of that? I just thought of the idea, and I doubt they would do this, but if they did, would you be willing to pay about the price of a 360 game to upgrade? Umm..the first couple of pages in this thread throw this what if around. I seriously doubt it would happen though. I wouldn't mind spending some extra money, however, I have nothing that uses HDMI so it doesn't matter too much for me. By the time I upgrade from 720p to 1080p, I'm sure more of these tv's will support 1080p via VGA. It seems like half HDTVs have VGA input. Most of the time it is called "PC Input" but when it is I check because that could mean DVI as well. If you shop with VGA in mind then you should be all good. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588200542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Umm..the first couple of pages in this thread throw this what if around. I seriously doubt it would happen though.\ Yeah, I don't have the time anymore to read through 8 pages of people bitching. sorry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588200607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
magik Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Yeah, I don't have the time anymore to read through 8 pages of people bitching. sorry. Well then, you're in luck! Apparently, we all have time to re-read the same suggestion over and over again! (Y) Don't be such a douche. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588200983 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshBluebird Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 For those making a comparison to sony and the slim PS2. I think its a fair comparison. When the started making the slim PS2 (which included the network adapter), they near enough stopped making the add on adapters for the fat PS2. This meant that they were really hard to get hold of, and I had to pay over double the RRP to get one (before the slim PS2 they were selling for around ?17, but afterwards, I could only find them in dixons for ?35). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Horizons Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Seriously, I don't understand why people are so ****ed about this. We don't even know when this new revision is coming out (if it really is) and there's a chance that the old 360 will be able to do HDMI with a new cable. Even if it turns out that MS did "screw" you, you've still been able to enjoy your 360 for however long you've had it (for me, that's a year now). If you had waited then you'd have been missing out on all the great games that have came out for 360 so far. MS can't keep anything secret for long, so I'd guess that this is a recent development and the new 360s won't be available for quite some time. So don't be upset, it's not that big of a deal. If you really have to have v2 when it comes out, there's always plenty of people willing to pay good money for your old console on eBay. I guarantee you, though, that most people with 360s won't even care -- the chances they have an HDTV are low and the chance said HDTV supports 1080p is even lower. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbba Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) From Activewin: http://www.activewin.com/awin/comments.asp...855&Group=1 Dean T. of the Mercury News just made an oops and leaked some Xbox 360 announcements Microsoft was planning on dropping next week at CES. Not only does he mention the improved Xbox 360s with 120GB hard drives and HDMI ports, he also talks about the use of the Xbox 360 as an IPTV set-top-box. The leak says Microsoft's IPTV services will have instant channel change, multiple picture-in-picture, broadcast shows, video on demand, and DVR functionality?gotta use those 120GB for more than just trailers. Looks like these rumours are getting stronger... From xboxscene: http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...kVpwzemjZKk.php We managed to get some exclusive High-Resolution pictures for x-scene of a 'Zephyr' prototype with the HDMI port. No, it's no retail Xbox360, it's a prototype board ... but Microsoft had to design a new scaler chip named 'HANA' (replacing the (analog-only?) 'ANA' chip found in current retail and dev Xboxes), I doubt they'll do that effort for nothing. You will also notice several other changes to the motherboard. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrack Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Even if it turns out that MS did "screw" you, you've still been able to enjoy your 360 for however long you've had it (for me, that's a year now). If you had waited then you'd have been missing out on all the great games that have came out for 360 so far. MS can't keep anything secret for long, so I'd guess that this is a recent development and the new 360s won't be available for quite some time. Exactly. People who keep saying that they "are glad they waited" don't even know if there is anything worth waiting for yet. At most we know that sometime within the next year (or so) xbox 360's will start coming w/ processors that run cooler. I've never had my xbox 360 over heat and I live in a very hot climate with poor in-door cooling. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lol911 Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Even if it turns out that MS did "screw" you, you've still been able to enjoy your 360 for however long you've had it (for me, that's a year now). If you had waited then you'd have been missing out on all the great games that have came out for 360 so far. MS can't keep anything secret for long, so I'd guess that this is a recent development and the new 360s won't be available for quite some time. That is of course bull****. You don't miss out on the great games at all. In fact, you can buy them whenever you want. I just recently got a 360 and I have been catching up on all the great games. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan_X Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 (edited) That is of course bull****. You don't miss out on the great games at all. In fact, you can buy them whenever you want. I just recently got a 360 and I have been catching up on all the great games. sure... just like last year when most people was playing CoD2 on XBL, try to find a decent match now days to play CoD2? :rolleyes: I'm so glad I never got that 79 VW Beetle and I waited till this year to get one with airbags, CD Player and A/C... :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhMuffin Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 :( I want HDMI... 1 slim digital cable VERSUS 5 analogue cables Sure, the picture quality will remain *almost* the same, but just keeping the signal in its original digital form is a plus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PL_ Veteran Posted January 7, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 7, 2007 How dare Microsoft do this.*goes back to playing DSLite* :shifty: Indeed. If this is released at the end of 2007, that will actually be longer than Nintendo waited with the DSL :p I still call fake. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588201846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshuggah Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Well then, you're in luck! Apparently, we all have time to re-read the same suggestion over and over again! (Y)Don't be such a douche. sorry, I have like 20-30 mins now for computer usage, and i'm not going to spend it reading an 8 page thread full of people who are bitching because MS is doing the same thing any other company does with changing technology. everyone in this thread complaining are being douchebags as well. When buying any technology (even consoles) it's expected for things to change, even if it's just a cable. Hell, I bought a 60gb ipod 5 and as soon as i couldn't return it, the 80gb 5.5 came with a better screen, 2 games and it was the exact same price. Did I freak out and vow to never purchase another product from apple? The damn thing cost just as much as my 360. No, I didn't complain, rather, I realized I purchased technology and it is expected to change. End of story. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588204001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am Reid Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 sorry, I have like 20-30 mins now for computer usage, and i'm not going to spend it reading an 8 page thread full of people who are bitching because MS is doing the same thing any other company does with changing technology. everyone in this thread complaining are being douchebags as well. When buying any technology (even consoles) it's expected for things to change, even if it's just a cable.Hell, I bought a 60gb ipod 5 and as soon as i couldn't return it, the 80gb 5.5 came with a better screen, 2 games and it was the exact same price. Did I freak out and vow to never purchase another product from apple? The damn thing cost just as much as my 360. No, I didn't complain, rather, I realized I purchased technology and it is expected to change. End of story. Using logic and common sense is not allowed in this thread. Please leave now Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588204109 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neoadorable Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) this is a redundant thread and goes to show that pretty much no one here knows anything about this. if any of these alleged changes materialize and have an effect on the 360's primary reason to exist, i.e playing games, than it's MS that are wrong and in breach of their implied promises. if there's no effect on game quality and speed, then i don't care. i don't use HDMI, i don't find that my system gets too hot and the HD is enough for me coz i think Video Marketplace isn't working properly yet and i can do without it anyways. so there. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588204185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiEMOS Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 not sure if this has been posted yet, but here is a video http://www.gametrailers.com/umwatcher.php?id=32321 :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588204577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATILA Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 To anyone with the hd-dvd unit, or those that have tvs that can only do 1080p via hdmi, the lead is a vital component and I would even deem it a feature. MS stated that on launch they went with component as market trends indicated technology penetration. Now that situation has changed, and speaking for myself the only interest I have in the revision is hdmi capability, I am waiting to hear if it will be supported on the old console. The original NeoGeoCD had a 1x speed cd rom drive, which was later updated to 2x in some regions. This would improve loading times significantly; was that a feature or merely a convenience? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588204586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger H. Veteran Posted January 8, 2007 Veteran Share Posted January 8, 2007 well i guess i sorta believe it now... i was reading the first 10 pages of this thread since morning and just skipped to here. The video above looks very convincing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+John Teacake MVC Posted January 8, 2007 MVC Share Posted January 8, 2007 well i guess i sorta believe it now... i was reading the first 10 pages of this thread since morning and just skipped to here. The video above looks very convincing. Im sure it said Input DVI-D on the monitor. Its a Sony one similar to the one I have. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spex04 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Im sure it said Input DVI-D on the monitor. Its a Sony one similar to the one I have. That's because they were using a HDMI>DVI converter.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzdawg Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Still not convinced even with the video... why would he STILL have the build date blacked out... i know its a stretch but isnt it possible that these guys modded their xbox to have hdmi output???... who knows.. either way i am convinced MS is not going to release an xbox with a 2nd output.... if they do release a 2nd sku or updated version.. its going to be 1 output for composite/component/hdmi.. just doesnt make sense to add a 2nd... how else can they make money if they dont sell the access to go with it/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neonix1 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Using logic and common sense is not allowed in this thread. Please leave now lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Why do i keep doubting they are gonna release an updated 360 - They sold/Shipped 10.4 Million Xbox 360's, so a great deal of the market is saturated. So how many are gonna buy another 360 for an HDMI port. There can't be a ton of people waiting THAT long to buy an Xbox. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205283 Share on other sites More sharing options...
[bear] Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 x-scene is a modding group.. they modded the xbox to include an HDMI port. You can even see cracks all over the case and a piece missing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205294 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowRanger13 Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Why do i keep doubting they are gonna release an updated 360 - They sold/Shipped 10.4 Million Xbox 360's, so a great deal of the market is saturated. So how many are gonna buy another 360 for an HDMI port. There can't be a ton of people waiting THAT long to buy an Xbox. They don't want people to buy it just for HDMI, they are simply adding features to make it more appealing to new customers. I'm sure most of the people that have Xbox360s don't even have TVs with HDMI, probably about half of my friends with xbox360s still only have SD TV's. I thought there wasn't huge picture difference anyways. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/527260-xbox-360-v2-codename-zephyr/page/13/#findComment-588205307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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