phxmimms Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I feel like I'm getting closer.... Here's an image of the doorway that had been covered up by the bulletin board. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I feel like I'm getting closer....Here's an image of the doorway that had been covered up by the bulletin board. Yep, I found that one too (as well as the door BEFORE it was covered up). It was an MIT hack in 1990. But that raises another question. If she had a GPA of 3.1416... how could she possibly have studied at MIT? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I've been looking for students with GPAs of 3.1416... and I came across a frat: Phi Delta Theta. They have an average GPA of 3.1416, and they are located at the University of Kentucky. Remember she said she "laid down low" at some college? http://www.uky.edu/StudentAffairs/Greek/statsS04.htm Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 My opinion: Week 1 was time-themed. 5 watches are put into the box--the number 5 motif running through the game probably has to do with the 5 versions of Vista being released. Week 2 was Magic-themed; the second set of things we see in the video is magician's clothing. The chocolates are the third. No doubt Loki will be eating chocolates in the third week's videos and the next week's puzzles will have to do with myths, legends, and lore. Remember also that at the end of Week 1's video, she is holding a pocketwatch on a chain. SO, in my opinion, those items in the Challenge video are just the themes for each week (making next week "delicious" :p --just wait and see if she doesn't say something like that!) and nothing more. Also, we have the white boxes, which are a puzzle within a puzzle and so constitute a Meta Puzzle already. It would stand to reason that Microsoft would want to mainstream that just as they have the Vanishing Point game. I'm going to focus on those picture pieces and see what I can find out about the pictures they make; that seems to me the best use of time.... If I've sawed Loki in half, does that mean I get to keep her lower part to play with? :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 My opinion: Week 1 was time-themed. 5 watches are put into the box--the number 5 motif running through the game probably has to do with the 5 versions of Vista being released. Week 2 was Magic-themed; the second set of things we see in the video is magician's clothing. The chocolates are the third. No doubt Loki will be eating chocolates in the third week's videos and the next week's puzzles will have to do with myths, legends, and lore. Remember also that at the end of Week 1's video, she is holding a pocketwatch on a chain. SO, in my opinion, those items in the Challenge video are just the themes for each week (making next week "delicious" :p --just wait and see if she doesn't say something like that!) and nothing more.Also, we have the white boxes, which are a puzzle within a puzzle and so constitute a Meta Puzzle already. It would stand to reason that Microsoft would want to mainstream that just as they have the Vanishing Point game. I'm going to focus on those picture pieces and see what I can find out about the pictures they make; that seems to me the best use of time.... If I've sawed Loki in half, does that mean I get to keep her lower part to play with? :devil: You are wayyyy behind. We've already pieced together the 18 puzzle pieces to form an incomplete coat of arms, with a grapnel and 6 feathers. There's even been some analyses of the coat of arms, and searches for it (which yielded nothing). We're waiting for a motto or additional clue of some sort on the remaining 18 puzzle pieces. Also, we've figured out that the 3rd puzzle box will be history related, since each box so far has been one of her 4 major fields of study (Time>Physics, Magic >Performing Arts, History>TBD, and the 4th has been speculated to be Folklore). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226878 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 You are wayyyy behind..... Not behind, just catching people up and keeping focus on the puzzles. There seemed to be alot of speculation about the contents of the videos, which just don't seem (to me) to have much to do with the puzzles we've had to solve, and I didn't want a bunch of people out there frustrating themselves trying to find clues to the Meta Puzzle from the videos. Sometimes what seems obvious to one person isn't to another; it's always good to share and summarize to keep everyone current. Somebody has to do it... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Not behind, just catching people up and keeping focus on the puzzles. There seemed to be alot of speculation about the contents of the videos, which just don't seem (to me) to have much to do with the puzzles we've had to solve, and I didn't want a bunch of people out there frustrating themselves trying to find clues to the Meta Puzzle from the videos.Sometimes what seems obvious to one person isn't to another; it's always good to share and summarize to keep everyone current. Somebody has to do it... Right, agreed. But she still releases vital clues about herself in her videos (which may prove to be useful for the Meta Puzzle). On top of that, we have nothing to do for the next 6 days :whistle: so speculation it is. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxmimms Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) On the page I discovered last night, http://www.lokivanishes.com/ not only do the numbers change, but also the colors in the bar-codes above the numbers. The numbers or symbols relate directly to the colored bars above them, always coming up the same. Algorithm, pgp encryption, hit counter.... several ways to go on this one. Edited January 14, 2007 by phxmimms Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Ooohh... good find, phxmimms! Yep, it's a bar code, alright. Anyone seen it repeat itself yet? (ie, does the sequence of numbers repeat or is it infinite?) I'm checking that barcode against known 1-D standard types, but it could take awhile.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyP Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 On the page I discovered last night, http://www.lokivanishes.com/ not only do the numbers change, but also the colors in the bar-codes above the numbers. This has been proven to be outside of the game... Many reasons why. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 This has been proven to be outside of the game... Many reasons why. It's written in html, whereas all the "in-game" pages have been done in javascript or flash. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 So you think that someone just decided to throw up this website for people to be confused? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226987 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyP Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Nice to know I can stop working on it, then. Got any references to said reasons? I'm curious about how this coincidence came up. Scroll back in this hread and you should see it... Or search the thread for the website URL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588226994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Scroll back in this hread and you should see it... Or search the thread for the website URL. Thanks for the tip. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequestor Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Guys, I think you're overanalysing the Chocolate Deity ad. Because if you know anything about Norse mythology, you'll know that Loki is a god known for his trickery and fraud (thanks, Matantei Loki Ragnarok :)).Loki bears many names : Lie-Smith, Sly-God, Shape-Changer, Sly-One, Lopt, Sky Traveller, Sky Walker and Loftur among others. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki Actually Loki is NOT a god. As I stated in the original thread. From the Wiki: "Loki Laufeyjarson is the mythical being of mischief in Norse mythology, a son of the giants F?rbauti and Laufey, and foster-brother of Odin. He is described as the "contriver of all fraud". He mixed freely with the gods for a long time, even becoming Odin's blood brother. Despite much research, "the figure of Loki remains obscure; there is no trace of a cult, and the name does not appear in place-names"[1]. In mythological terms, Loki is not a god, as he has no cult or followers (no evidence has ever been found or even referenced such), rather he is a mythological or mythical being" Just to set the record straight. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 (edited) Some fools at http://loki.ragnarokr.com/toc.html might disagree with you. What was once a joke has now become a joke of a cult. Edited January 14, 2007 by cousinIT Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
no.fear Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 After log in/out, refresh so many time and also tried new browser. Only white box in the "posters" remains even after clicking several times. For some reason that perticular white box shows up at the same place. So that put me in 17 and could not get 18th box. Please help. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 After log in/out, refresh so many time and also tried new browser. Only white box in the "posters" remains even after clicking several times. For some reason that perticular white box shows up at the same place. So that put me in 17 and could not get 18th box. Please help. yea, a lot of people seem to be having problems with registering the "posters" box (like me). Just keep trying, it'll get through eventually =). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriscross93 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 yea, a lot of people seem to be having problems with registering the "posters" box (like me). Just keep trying, it'll get through eventually =). We seem to have determined that the data concerning the boxes we have clicked on is stored on our computers.......so whose to say that we couldn't find where this data is stored and change it. Therefore "upping" our count to 32 and solving the meta puzzle, there don't seem to be any rules to this game so why wouldn't it work? :shiftyninja: EDIT: Also fixing the problem for those who are having trouble with the "counter" not going up/going down. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227327 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWAMMIE Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I have had the same problem a few times.... I figured out something that might help... Go to the puzzle "HEADLINER" in the 2nd box and see if the WHITE BOX is there also... if it is.. click it.. the one in the brick.. lower left.. If you have 17 out of 18 and the posters one keeps showing up.. this may fix it... My puzzle piece count shows 18 out of 36 now like it should.. even though the POSTERS box is still showing up.. You may also want to go back and see if any of the other boxes have reappeared.. I did that and it worked.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227368 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 We seem to have determined that the data concerning the boxes we have clicked on is stored on our computers.......so whose to say that we couldn't find where this data is stored and change it. Therefore "upping" our count to 32 and solving the meta puzzle, there don't seem to be any rules to this game so why wouldn't it work? :shiftyninja:EDIT: Also fixing the problem for those who are having trouble with the "counter" not going up/going down. Yea, that might work. If you know how to edit cookies. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227385 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWAMMIE Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I also found this to be a funny coincidence.. If you notice that the last puzzle is titled "people disappear"... I did a search with Ask.com for those two words.. and this came up towards the top: http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm lol... Coincidence that the name of the article is the same as the game??? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
remix17 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 lol... Coincidence that the name of the article is the same as the game??? Umm yea I'd say so. I think that a lot of us are overanalyzing this game. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindendragon Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Umm yea I'd say so. I think that a lot of us are overanalyzing this game. Probably. Nothing to do for 5 more days :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chriscross93 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I also found this to be a funny coincidence..If you notice that the last puzzle is titled "people disappear"... I did a search with Ask.com for those two words.. and this came up towards the top: http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm lol... Coincidence that the name of the article is the same as the game??? Ya, probably.......but what are we supposed to do for five days? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/31/#findComment-588227461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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