blvd Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi all- I have been lurking and you guys are totally out of my league. I apologize ahead of time if this sounds dumb, but I have been looking at the itinerary fax from the /AWAKENED clue with the itinerary for: L Kitsune A copy is on http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Image:I...r_L_KITSUNE.jpg, created by http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/ ...and some of the airline codes didn't seem correct so I checked and ... AW = DAS - Dirgantara Air Service/Schreiner Airways SW = Air Namibia AK = Air Asia Is there something to this?...or should I just climb back into my hole of ignorance? :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deffjeff Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi all- I have been lurking and you guys are totally out of my league. I apologize ahead of time if this sounds dumb, but I have been looking at the itinerary fax from the /AWAKENED clue with the itinerary for: L Kitsune A copy is on http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Image:I...r_L_KITSUNE.jpg, created by http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/ ...and some of the airline codes didn't seem correct so I checked and ... AW = DAS - Dirgantara Air Service/Schreiner Airways SW = Air Namibia AK = Air Asia Is there something to this?...or should I just climb back into my hole of ignorance? :blush: AW is america west, sw is southwest airlines and AK is alaska air Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Hi all- I have been lurking and you guys are totally out of my league. I apologize ahead of time if this sounds dumb, but I have been looking at the itinerary fax from the /AWAKENED clue with the itinerary for: L Kitsune A copy is on http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Image:I...r_L_KITSUNE.jpg, created by http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/ ...and some of the airline codes didn't seem correct so I checked and ... AW = DAS - Dirgantara Air Service/Schreiner Airways SW = Air Namibia AK = Air Asia Is there something to this?...or should I just climb back into my hole of ignorance? :blush: HEY Blvd., The airlines you're listing are INTERNATIONAL. The airlines Loki is flying are domestic (within the United States). Many codes are similar, and the difference is only whether its an international airline or a US airline. :) Hope that explains your curiosity Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxmimms Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) I still think there is something to this. The fact that her voice mail at AMD in Austin matches up to her name. The one number we have not found yet is the one to the Blackberry she uses... Fortunately...or unfortunately (as I may be up all night) I hit on something that is possibly pulling several pieces of this together.I was looking at how mnemonics are possibly being used in some of the clues and messages. Perhaps there was more to a number than just discovering it I thought. I took the number I have for Loki's voicemail at AMD Austin and ran it through a mnemonic generator. The number is 512-602-5654 or you can drop the area code and use just 602-5654...Here is the result There are only two 10 letter mnemonics 512-602-5654 = 51-am-0-Al-OK-I And --- 51-an-0-Al-OK-I and only one 7 letter mnemonic 602-5654 = 60-Al-OK-I The word mnemonic is derived from the Ancient Greek word μνημονικός mnemonikos ("of memory") and the first known reference to mnemonics is the method of loci described in Cicero's De Oratore. But there is even more....I believe I'm on the right track with this. Thoughts? Edited January 19, 2007 by phxmimms Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Not true, in many games they do but few people notice it.I tell you another reason why I spent some time following that lead is because together with that image there is another image that gets overimposed to the base image in the first frame, unless you have an ultra slow machine you will never see the legend, when I first found the image I thought, hmmm is this something that was supposed to vanish ? Then I went for additional digging and found nothing besides the curiosity why the heck they put it there ? BTW to satisfy your curiosity here is the image that gets overimpossed on the first frame. Cheers Perhaps. But I am a strong believer that this is not one of "many games". Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxmimms Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 My hunch is that somewhere in the clues is another mneumonic that provides a phone number or URL that brings us closer to solving this, if not finding Loki. I still think there is something to this. The fact that her voice mail at AMD in Austin matches up to her name. The one number we havn't found yet is the one to the Blackberry she uses... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) OK. LEts work on that. Lets see...who are the ONLY providers in the country to offer Blackberry with their service? I know T-Mobile is...who else? OK ..so its NOT T-Mobile..lol.....its Verizon and Cingular. Lets see...where can we go from there? :) She (Loki) will be "thrilled" if we found out her cell number, lol Edited January 19, 2007 by D-Cipher Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Perhaps. But I am a strong believer that this is not one of "many games". You are right on that, remember that this is just a "marketing campaign" related to the Vista launch and designed to generate a lot of buzz. I'm kind of surprised that I've not found additional media coverage and it seems that besides the Belagio event (when and at what time you will not find a lot of people in Vegas hanging around? and a lot of geeks when CES is there ?) it doesn't seem that a lot of people showed up for the other events. Still it's an interesting challenge, and a good example of how cooperative work around the world can produce interesing results, that BTW is not the way msft develop their products ... Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 While googling "Loki Blackberry" (Dumb idea, i know) , i found this: Loki for Internet Explorer (exe) Loki is a location-based search and location-sharing browser toolbar. Leveraging Skyhook's Wi-Fi Positioning System (WPS) to automatically define a user's exact physical location, this customizable toolbar turns a Wi-Fi-enabled laptop into a 'virtual GPS' device and integrates location into your Internet search, browsing, and communications. You can customize Loki to ... Tags: text messaging/sms/mms, wireless lans, telephony, sms, wi-fi, internet search, gps, laptop computer, web browser, pc, e-mail, internet 2006-10-30 Notice the word "Tags" ....while on her blackberry, doesnt she say "When they need help, they can always look at the tags" ?? P.S. The website that info is on is: http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:MHMbD...t=clnk&cd=7 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 OK. LEts work on that. Lets see...who are the ONLY providers in the country to offer Blackberry with their service?I know T-Mobile is...who else? ALLTEL Cbeyond Cellular One Cellular South Cincinnati Bell Cingular Wireless Dobson Cellular Edge Wireless NTelos Nextel Research In Motion SouthernLINC Wireless Sprint SunCom Wireless T-Mobile Telecommunications Systems (TCS) U.S. Cellular Verizon Wireless Just a few .... :-) Cheers Notice the word "Tags" ....while on her blackberry, doesnt she say "When they need help, they can always look at the tags" ?? The best explanation we had on that is that the pregame initiated with bloggers and "tag" is very common in the blog jargon. My .02 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treep Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 My hunch is that somewhere in the clues is another mneumonic that provides a phone number or URL that brings us closer to solving this, if not finding Loki. What about the solution to the Gravity Lock puzzle?? Either the # (7451236) or the the number coresponding to "secrecy" (732-7328). Two possibles. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 You are right on that, remember that this is just a "marketing campaign" related to theVista launch and designed to generate a lot of buzz. I'm kind of surprised that I've not found additional media coverage and it seems that besides the Belagio event (when and at what time you will not find a lot of people in Vegas hanging around? and a lot of geeks when CES is there ?) it doesn't seem that a lot of people showed up for the other events. Still it's an interesting challenge, and a good example of how cooperative work around the world can produce interesing results, that BTW is not the way msft develop their products ... Cheers Well, yes. I firmly believe that Microsoft was NOT hoping to get a big turn-up of people on those events. This was mainly aimed at the online community, and seems like they have surpassed their expectations and succeeded :) On another note, whats going on w/ the search of that Blackberry stuff? Lets grill it. :) What about the solution to the Gravity Lock puzzle??Either the # (7451236) or the the number coresponding to "secrecy" (732-7328). Two possibles. Interesting. I think you're on to something here, Treep :) Im going to look up both numbers and see who they're registered to :) Any suggestions what area codes I should use? There are a lot of references to Austin, Texas. What is the area code there? Any ideas? PS. GOOD NEWS! My foreign currency exchange bets that I just checked had gone up $3,303.00 :) YAY Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) I just called 866-745-1236 ...and they say Welcome to Telephone Conference. Please enter your pass code. Hmmm..... Refer to this: http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Contact_Information The numbers we discovered start with (800), (866), and (877) . So, Anyone there with Austin, Texas area code(s)? On WhitePages.com, to see the 800 number (745-1236), they want to charge 14.95 :( The good news is, they say "Name found" , "Address Found" ....perhaps this is somethign we should do? Edited January 19, 2007 by D-Cipher Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 I just called 866-745-1236 ...and they say Welcome to Telephone Conference. Please enter your pass code.Hmmm..... Refer to this: http://vanishingpointwiki.com/wiki/Contact_Information The numbers we discovered start with (800), (866), and (877) . So, Anyone there with Austin, Texas area code(s)? Austin is 512. Question, why are we so sure it's a Blackberry ? Model ? I'm asking because I'm not 100% convinced it's a Blackberry. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Austin is 512.Question, why are we so sure it's a Blackberry ? Model ? I'm asking because I'm not 100% convinced it's a Blackberry. Because I can tell a Blackberry when I see one :)...and GUESS WHAT?????? I have Loki's Cell # !!!!!!!!!! :) hehehehehehehhe I just texted her "Vanishing Point =)" LOL...lets see what comes out of this... My dear Confusious! (thats what is intended, is it not?) As long as its a Blackberry, we should find out which Cell companies provide service for the Blackberry. Its Cingular and Verizon...only those two. In WHITE PAGES, click on "Reverse Number look up" and type in the Austin Area Code (512) + the sequence in the puzzle "7451236" ....see the result they give you ;-) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Because I can tell a Blackberry when I see one :)...and GUESS WHAT??????I have Loki's Cell # !!!!!!!!!! :) hehehehehehehhe I just texted her "Vanishing Point =)" LOL...lets see what comes out of this... My dear Confusious! (thats what is intended, is it not?) As long as its a Blackberry, we should find out which Cell companies provide service for the Blackberry. Its Cingular and Verizon...only those two. In WHITE PAGES, click on "Reverse Number look up" and type in the Austin Area Code (512) + the sequence in the puzzle "7451236" ....see the result they give you ;-) If you can guess the model we may have a better chance to match that to potential providers, many providers support just few models. I was looking at a 360 view of the pearl model but it doesn't look like the one in the video. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitakoi Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) (512) 745-1236 Type: Cell Phone Provider: Verizon Wireless Location: Austin, TX Dead end # is available, anyone in Austin want it? Phone Number: (512) 745-1236 Name: Available Address: Available Edited January 19, 2007 by akitakoi Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 If you can guess the model we may have a better chance to match that to potentialproviders, many providers support just few models. I was looking at a 360 view of the pearl model but it doesn't look like the one in the video. The thing is, it doesnt matter what model it is. As long as its a Blackberry, all models are supporeted by only two companies, so there's no need to dig around deeper to come out to the same result. The bottom line is Blackberry = Verizion or Cingular. Did you do the search? Like what you see? :) Go to Zabasearch.com Type in "Loki" and check "In all 50 states"... Scroll to the bottom and there are 4 entries that read "V Loki" hmm..wasnt that her Microsoft E-Mail? Perhaps Lorelei is NOT her real first name. Perhaps her first name begins with a "V"? V LOKI More Information 28618 STATE ROUTE 530 NE Recorded: Unknown V LOKI business listings ARLINGTON, WA 98223 County (360) 474-9565 Leave a message for V LOKI www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check V LOKI More Information 2906 VICTOR PL Recorded: 01/29/2004 V LOKI business listings EVERETT, WA 98201 County (425) 258-4923 Leave a message for V LOKI www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check V LOKI More Information (360) 652-0233 Leave a message for V LOKI www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - V LOKI More Information 28618 PIONEER HWY Recorded: 03/01/2006 V LOKI business listings STANWOOD, WA 98292 County (360) 474-9565 Leave a message for V LOKI www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588241985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
confusio Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 The thing is, it doesnt matter what model it is. As long as its a Blackberry, all models are supporeted by only two companies, so there's no need to dig around deeper to come out to the same result. The bottom line is Blackberry = Verizion or Cingular.Did you do the search? Like what you see? :) Not really, if you go to the blackberry page or each individual carrier they will show you what models they support, the list I posted before is from the blackberry site where they list all the carriers that have services for blackberry. But I'll agree that most probably has to be a major carrier. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (512) 745-1236Type: Cell Phone Provider: Verizon Wireless Location: Austin, TX Dead end # is available, anyone in Austin want it? Phone Number: (512) 745-1236 Name: Available Address: Available Anyone have an account on Intellius or something? lol...who wants to pay up $15 to see those "Available" name and address? :) I am going to call that number when i go on lunch.....in 5 minutes...I hope I dont get some old lady cursing me out w/ a texan accent :) lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitakoi Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Could be Loki Fish co or a dentist in ,WA state. Internet secerety in Hotlanta http://www.iss.net/ Go a head in PA (look this one up) over 18 only. Gateway playhouse in NY (ties in with the whole cole watch theme) http://www.gatewayplayhouse.com/2006/lacage.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phxmimms Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 (edited) Austin is 512.Question, why are we so sure it's a Blackberry ? Model ? I'm asking because I'm not 100% convinced it's a Blackberry. It's a Blackberry 7130C http://www.blackberry.com/products/blackbe...erry7130c.shtml Edited January 19, 2007 by phxmimms Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
binny1070 Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Anyone have an account on Intellius or something? lol...who wants to pay up $15 to see those "Available" name and address? :)I am going to call that number when i go on lunch.....in 5 minutes...I hope I dont get some old lady cursing me out w/ a texan accent :) lol # has been changed or disco'd Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Cipher Posted January 19, 2007 Share Posted January 19, 2007 Recently? Sonova....Maybe she got my text msg and disconnected it...LOL Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
akitakoi Posted January 19, 2007 Author Share Posted January 19, 2007 Since we have some time check this out http://www.clearification.com/ It's another promotion for Vista. No I'm not Loki and don't work at Microsoft, AMD or e42. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/54/#findComment-588242065 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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