tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 THE SEVEN CARD MONTEIf you're like me - and I hope for your sake you're not - then you feel there's nothing like a good card trick. Therefore I generously offer the following effect, which I assure you is nothing like a good card trick. Of course you've heard of the infamous 3 card monte, but have you ever heard of the 7 card monte? Probably not, since I just made that up. But who cares, honesty has no place in the realm of card trickery. Anyhoo, what you do is this: Go round up a deck of cards...I’ll wait. Back so soon? Okay, now lay out 6 of them in a row, face down as pictured below, with a face up QUEEN placed somewhere amongst them. (you can place it anywhere you want) What I'm going to ask you to do is to perform a short series of moves to shuffle the Queen around a bit. Let's say you laid them out like so... Every time the Queen switches places with one of the cards beside it, left or right, it counts as one move. Two switches would be two moves; three, three moves; four, four moves, blah blah blah... O.K. enough explaining, let's get to the fun part: a friendly little game of Find the Lady. First, move the QUEEN the same number of times as the position it's in. For instance, if you placed it in the third position, move it three times; fourth position, four times, blah blah blah... Now move it TWO more additional times. Hmmmmmmmm. It looks a little crowded to me out there, so get rid of the first card and the last card. In other words, lose the bookends. Now move the Queen THREE times. Hmmmmmmmm. Again it looks to me like it's not on either end, so once again lose the end cards. Now move the Queen once more. Hmmmm. It doesn't look like it's on the left, so throw the card on your left away. Move the Queen one last time. Let's see, eeny meeny miny... Aha, there it is, RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT. Impressed? Blown away? Asleep? Oh well, what did you expect for free. For some reason this always works if you follow the above procedure. To duplicate the effect all you have to do is commit the sequence to memory or tattoo it on an appendage. Then you, too, will be preying on the ignorant masses in no time. Pictures at http://charliefrye.com/TRICKS/tricks.html So there's the trick... now how to apply that... (?) Also, as a note: There's a "sweet spot" on each card to flip it over. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boifido Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 One hour left till next set of clues Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phoenix 2007 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well simplified 11 Lines = Lady Liberty 8 Lines = Swallow 8 Lines = Elephant 5 Lines = Train 5 Lines = Horse Coincidence maybe but if not now what do we do ? EDIT: Opps Swallow is only 7 letters, but ya get what I mean Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRob Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Here's what I've got for Postcards. ****LADYLIBERTY ***_____ ELEPHANT *****TRAIN STALLION For the bird, I was thinking Finch, so that would be ... ****LADYLIBERTY ***FINCH ELEPHANT *****TRAIN STALLION Any ideas? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223551 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiThIuM Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 k, so on a hunch, i took the 866 from the vegas video, and the 263 from the pics for this one, and for the seven card monty, i tried calling each number (using the remaining cards) and got the following responces. only 2 seemed curious... 866-263- 6790 x 6709 never did anything 6907 x fax 6970 x 6079 x 6097 x 7960 x fax 7906 number being checked for trouble - server media 9 7690 x 7609 x 7096 x conference line 7069 x conference number 9760 x 9706 x someone's personal asst - not loki 9670 x online reservation 9607 x 9076 x 9067 x 0697 ? someone's personal number 0679 x trancription service 0796 x number fwd 0769 x 0976 x nis 0967 number being checked for trouble - server media Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeschylus Maximus Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 tale of 2 brothers AMAZE EDIT sry didnt see that we already have that Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Pictures at http://charliefrye.com/TRICKS/tricks.htmlSo there's the trick... now how to apply that... (?) Also, as a note: There's a "sweet spot" on each card to flip it over. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Pictures at http://charliefrye.com/TRICKS/tricks.htmlSo there's the trick... now how to apply that... (?) Also, as a note: There's a "sweet spot" on each card to flip it over. We also know that 263 was in the sky for this puzzle Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Why did you quote me twice with no new info? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
exquisitedeadguy Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I was thinking that balls and cups might be referencing a sport of some kind. From the clues, maybe a silver banded trophy that has the same name as a famous trickster - someone who completes a great number of hat tricks. Any thoughts? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawx's Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well simplified11 Lines = Lady Liberty 8 Lines = Swallow 8 Lines = Elephant 5 Lines = Train 5 Lines = Horse Coincidence maybe but if not now what do we do ? EDIT: Opps Swallow is only 7 letters, but ya get what I mean No 11 lines = Copperfield 5 lines = possibley annie 7 lines = houdini 5 lines = ? 8 lines = ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I was thinking that balls and cups might be referencing a sport of some kind. From the clues, maybe a silver banded trophy that has the same name as a famous trickster - someone who completes a great number of hat tricks.Any thoughts? Must be right, the theme is magic, and hat tricks count. Must have something to do with balls or cups too... Maybe a game where you throw a ball in a hat... ? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 if you flip over the 2,6,3's you are left with 9, 10, 7 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinIT Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Wasn't there a magician called Blackstone in the 1890's? What was his most famous trick? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Harry Blackstone: http://www.amdest.com/stars/harryb.html Can't just be coincidence... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boazer Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 No 11 lines = Copperfield 5 lines = possibley annie 7 lines = houdini 5 lines = ? 8 lines = ? nice, hmm maybe we need to find the names of the magicians who made these objects disapear... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jphillips59 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Why did you quote me twice with no new info? sorry browser was freaking out on me...i edited one...does that not show... :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
omgcolinwtf Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Wasn't there a magician called Blackstone in the 1890's? What was his most famous trick? http://www.magicwebchannel.com/hall_blackstoneSR.htm some info. EDIT: i think what we have to do is relate blackstone somehow to the cup and ball trick. right now, that the main clue is hanging off of a table with the cup and ball trick, and that the title of this has to do with the trick, has been treated as irrelevant. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hm... his son and him were both magicians, maybe the "no substitutes" thing is referring to his son? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janna May Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 train = pc sorcar JR or franz harary but then so did copperfield..? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223613 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperRob Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hm... his son and him were both magicians, maybe the "no substitutes" thing is referring to his son? No substitutes was a reference to using the substitution cipher in the code to get to the hint. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawx's Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 the vanishing horse was blackstone sr. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janna May Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Another French magician who developed original techniques was Joseph Buatier (1848?1903), known as Buatier De Kolta. Two of his outstanding inventions were the vanishing birdcage, a trick in which a live canary and a metal cage disappeared at his fingertips, and the expanding die, in which a 20-cm (8-in) cube suddenly increased 20 times its original size and was then lifted to disclose a seated woman. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRON101276 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 In magic lesson is there any common cards that the magician deals out to the hands that would be discarded? My video is too choppy to tell. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tylermenezes Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Maybe the vanishing birdcage is significant. Postcards and a few puzzles last week had birdcages in them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/529592-puzzle-box-2/page/8/#findComment-588223644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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